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Best Answer J.H.Buchanan , 22 June 2020 - 01:00 AM

Ok Thanks I guess I should just play some real courses on here that would make the most sense. Thanks for reply. 

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#1 J.H.Buchanan

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Posted 20 June 2020 - 12:04 AM

What I mean is Does making the course to the exact specifications given by the Lidars provide the PG player with somewhat of an inaccurate experience than the actual designer wanted a pro golfer to encounter. ??

 

 From my understanding of Lidars one can get this info and they have just about an exact map of the course so that they can make it using Course Forge and the Course will have the distances of the holes the bunker placements even the trees - size of green all kind of stuff it is actually quite a blessing. 

 

For example one can use the Lidar thing and make La Gorce CC 

 

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According to the internet:

 

Average Carry Per Club

The statistics are based on the PGA Tour's Shotlink system, which tracks each shot played on the tour. The average shot hit with a driver carried 260 yards and traveled a total of 287.3 yards, including the roll. An average 3-wood shot carried 238 yards and the average 5-wood carried 223 yards.

 

This is how far a PGA a pro player hits the ball - on average a driver - 260 yards in the air then rolls out to about 287 yards. 

 

So the big question is when one makes a hole such as this one at La Gorce CC 

 

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The Person making this course in course forge may put the tees in there exactly how they are on the lidar. Which they should because this is reality. So when a PGA player plays this hole and because this average PGA player is going to hit the driver about 260 yards in the air it may be landing in the yellow marked area; because this course is made perhaps according to how most PGA players hit the driver so everything is great. However, the average Perfect Golf pro player is going to hit the ball from my understanding with a driver - about 280 feet in the air and its going to roll close to 300. 

 

So because of this when the Perfect Golf player gets on this hole for example they may be hitting the ball into the red area at ease this is fun but the ball in theory goes over the bunker areas the Perfect Golf  player just bangs it over. Since we are using lidar etc. to play actual courses we may never play on in order to get a more accurate feel of the course which we are already getting by where the bunkers, green, trees, elevations, etc. are maybe the Championship Tees should be placed about 180 yards back from the assumed landing area of where an actual PGA player would have to deal with. so that in this example a Perfect Golf  pro player would have to contend with the Yellow area which is a narrower part of the fairway and is protected by bunkers as oppose to the red area which only perhaps a PGA player encounters if the wind is blowing just right.

 

In paying attention to Championship Tee Placement by Course Forge designers in the event wind comes into play because of how the game is set up the PG player could then land in the Red area  but more importantly perhaps they would get a more accurate feel of the course similar to what an actual PGA player does. 

 

So when Championship Tees are put down is this taken into consideration ???

 

 

 

I have also seen videos where in the lidar things do not show very well where the Chapionship Tee is - - anyway and so the designer then puts them down probably 180 yards back or so .... - I'm just wondering if there is any attention given to this or if it even matters. ??????

 

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Posted 20 June 2020 - 03:42 AM

JHB, I can't figure out if you're for real or just f+$&ing with us...

You are quoting statistics from 2009...https://golftips.gol...lfer-20585.html

Here is PGA Tour carry for 2019, that would probably put Hacker Harry around average...https://www.pgatour....2409.y2019.html
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#3 J.H.Buchanan

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Posted 22 June 2020 - 01:00 AM   Best Answer

Ok Thanks I guess I should just play some real courses on here that would make the most sense. Thanks for reply. 


Little known fact when King Arthur was trying to make a golf course and he ran into some conflict. King Arthur: There's a peace only to be found on the other side of war. If that war should come I will fight it!    Other important fact. Read the Book of John in the Holy Bible. 





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