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[Jwheels9876]

Hey guys, I'm working on one of my local courses and fiddling around with the overlay method and I'm just looking for opinions on the colors I used to build the rough draft here. Let me know what you think. I know I still have to fix some splines and stuff obviously...
https://youtu.be/dEutZheRJBo

[balaceanca81]

Looking great..Nice autumn colors.

[Sliceapottomus]

As you know I'm from Rhode Island, and been to Triggs Memorial many times. Looks like it is coming along nicely. Color scheme might be a bit hard to tell from a video  where as I don't get to use the sliders to properly adjust... From what I saw Looks fall-ish but the fairways look like spring. It is a bit weird to see the fairways and greens that dark and rich and the rough and all the yellow trees telling you its october..

So if i had it my way, I might lighten up fairways and greens a few shades. I also think that there is some grass in the rough that looks too fluorescent green. again this might not be as pronounced if I was able to lessen saturation on my own.

does the par 3 on the back side seem down hill enough to you. I forget the number but it is right before the dogleg left with the pond . surprised you didn't put the ladies tee out there in the  pond... 

Any who Looking good and can't wait to play it....

[Jwheels9876]

As you know I'm from Rhode Island, and been to Triggs Memorial many times. Looks like it is coming along nicely. Color scheme might be a bit hard to tell from a video where as I don't get to use the sliders to properly adjust... From what I saw Looks fall-ish but the fairways look like spring. It is a bit weird to see the fairways and greens that dark and rich and the rough and all the yellow trees telling you its october..
So if i had it my way, I might lighten up fairways and greens a few shades. I also think that there is some grass in the rough that looks too fluorescent green. again this might not be as pronounced if I was able to lessen saturation on my own.
does the par 3 on the back side seem down hill enough to you. I forget the number but it is right before the dogleg left with the pond . surprised you didn't put the ladies tee out there in the pond...
Any who Looking good and can't wait to play it....

Hey, Slice, I was hoping you'd chime in. I had the fairways lighter but it all looked kinda washed out a bit. The overhead image I got with the lidar package was from fall/winter so everything was very light in color but honestly all I did with the fairways was use the color of the existing fairways in the overhead and then darken the whole spline so there weren't any patches of light color in the fairway. I want it to look nice but at the same time,look kind of fallish and worn out off the fairway like triggs really is as you know.

The grass I have to tone down for sure. Theres fescue all over triggs as you also know but I couldn't find anything that looked like it really but I will fix the color for sure.

The 14th downhill par 3 is 21 feet downhill when I play it in the sim and it looks and feels about right. I could possibly raise the tee boxes up a few feet to make it more pronounced of course.

The ladies tee on the dogleg 16th is now ahead of the water. They dont use that little circle in the water anymore I guess. I had it showing but being new to unity I had some issues with the water plane and it just worked better lowering the terrain and throwing the water in it that way.

You know the greens at triggs are pretty good size on some holes and small on others but all have good amount of slope. I'm anxious to see what you think of them when I get it out for play. Actually when I get home, I'll zip up the file and send it to you so you can take a first look. I've played it about 10 times indoors and it feels like I'm there. I played triggs probably 15 times this year and it plays just like it IMO...

Jeff

[DPRoberts]

Jwheels, looking good. It might just be a personal preference but I always feel that the Sycamore is too lime green. Really, all the stock trees are too saturated for my taste. I assume you know how to tone down the trees a bit?

I've always felt you get the color of the fairway to what you feel is best and build around that. Obviously, grass but also other vegetation in harmony.

In the end, the colors don't have to be exact matches for real world but if they flow in relation to each other, it makes sense to the player.

As slice mentioned, there is a disconnect between grass and trees. Darker hue in your fairway but a bit bright in the trees.

All easy fixes. But, if to your eye, you're happy, just keep churning it out as is.

[Jwheels9876]

I honestly don't know how to tone down the tree colors. This is my first go round in CF basically after trying about a year ago and giving up because I didn't have the time to dive in deep.
Thanks to your videos I've really gotten into it now and slowly I'm learning the ins and outs but there is still a million things I have no clue about.

This course is just a course that's 5 minutes from my house that I play often so I wanted to get it done fir winter play in the sim.

I like the look of the fairway and greens and how they contrast the rest of the course but the very bright trees and grass do stick out s little too much for my liking

[jspirate]

I honestly don't know how to tone down the tree colors.

 

This is a must view video for speedtree tweaks:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=0wL2VaxYw2c

[Jwheels9876]

This is a must view video for speedtree tweaks:

https://www.youtube....h?v=0wL2VaxYw2c

Thanks! I'll give it a look tonight

[Jwheels9876]

looks like I had my saturation at 120% when I made the video. When I play on the sim everything looks washed out so I pump up the brightness and all the rest of the settings. guess i forgot to change the settings after my last rounds in the sim room lol.

[Jwheels9876]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Buck]

Great pics!
Looks really nice and quite realistic

[Jwheels9876]

Great pics!Looks really nice and quite realistic

Thanks, Buck. I can't seem to tame the grass color though. In unity it looks pretty good then it's all blown out in the game. It's coming along, hope to have it beta tested by the weekend.

[Buck]

Thanks, Buck. I can't seem to tame the grass color though. In unity it looks pretty good then it's all blown out in the game. It's coming along, hope to have it beta tested by the weekend.

Which grass?
Fairway/main stuff or off to the sides?

[Jwheels9876]

Which grass?Fairway/main stuff or off to the sides?

The planted grasses scattered throughout the course. It's much darker in unity but when I compile and play the course it gets much brighter and kind of sticks out a bit. I'll figure it out. Doesn't help that I'm color blind either lol

[Buck]

Looks pretty good to me on this end - I guess hard to tell unless "in game" though

[Jwheels9876]

Here's a link if anyone wants to play the first release. Some work to do I'm sure but overall happy with how it plays in the sim at least.... let me know of any issues

[Jwheels9876]

https://www.dropbox...._scene.zip?dl=0

New version with fixed lighting for No dynamic skies and some general smoothing of greens and bunkers...

[Joe Habiger]

For an autumn course there is still to much green going on, you need to have more color and less green. Pines almost always stay green in the fall but to me with as much brown grass surrounding the fairways and such you will have way much more of the turned leaves in the trees already. I do like what you are doing though so keep going, it's always nice to get advice.

[Jwheels9876]

For an autumn course there is still to much green going on, you need to have more color and less green. Pines almost always stay green in the fall but to me with as much brown grass surrounding the fairways and such you will have way much more of the turned leaves in the trees already. I do like what you are doing though so keep going, it's always nice to get advice.

I'm always all ears for advice from people who have the experience of designing. It's my first go round so the learning curve is still a little steep for me.
Maybe I'll lighten the fairway a bit but it matches the overlay underneath perfectly. I went s shade darker on the greens and I think I need to tone down the bunker whiteness a bit also.
It's a work in progress. I wanted to make sure it plays good before fixing the little things and I think I'm about there for playability anyways.
Thanks for the reply
Jeff

[Joe Habiger]

As I said in a private message..

 

 

Well you could just recolor the other greenish trees leaves for more autumn look. This is your call but I would rather you keep going no matter, if you can't recolor them then just leave as is. A course doesn't have to be perfect and not every tree has to have color as there are some green trees yet in autumn just not that many but it also depends on the year and the month because I have seen mostly green trees with some full color turned trees but that doesn't happen all to often so this course be one of those cases in your course.

 

I think you will be fine....