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[✠ davef ✠]

what modes of control will be in play with the new game. im sure the keyboard and mice,what im really wondering is game pads

going to be in play if so do you have a way to over ride the xpadder program so people wont be able to shut down their left and right axis

and never hit a bad shot this was a well know fact over at TWO and im sure some where doing it. also the kinsington roller ball and their mouseworks program which does the same. do you have a way to over ride these programs so they cant be used with you're golf game.

 

thanks

[Acrilix]

Dave, there is no way to stop people cheating if they really want to. As well as the axis blockers for TS/RTS, there are lots of auto click programs available for clickers, and even mouse recorders now that could be used by either. With these, people could create a whole selection of profiles for different shots, and then simply select the one they need. Checking for a perfect swing will not stop these cheaters because the recorded swing doesn't need to be perfect - just good enough, and the cheats can record multiple versions of the same shot so that repeats cannot be checked for! 

Try to make it hard for people to cheat yes, but foremost, programmers should provide options for the honest among us to enjoy ourselves, not leave out options simply because there is a possibility of cheating, because believe me, there will always be that possibility.    

[Acrilix]

As an addendum to my last post, a friend of mine had a very 'novel' way of holding his controller for playing TW on the Xbox 360. Instead of holding it in the traditional manner, he used the fingers of one hand to create a channel around the stick. This meant he could move the stick with his other hand with no lateral movement whatsoever, and would always produce a straight shot!! He was basically using his fingers as an axis blocker, and, at the time, I considered this cheating and said so. Actually there are no rules with consoles on how you have to hold the controllers, so his opinion that he was really just using a little ingenuity to gain an advantage may have been a correct one.  If I had been playing him online, instead of at home, I would have never known that he was doing this. Personally, I wouldn't enjoy hitting nothing but straight shots, as most of my enjoyment comes from the challenge of the game and the course, not from my leaderboard results. I may never have even considered that this could be happening if I hadn't actually seen it, because it doesn't fit in with my concept of what is fun at all!

In real life golf, players have been using an interlocking or overlapping grip to give them an advantage in much the same way, and this became completely acceptable over time. Long/belly putters however are now being considered as unacceptable for using a similar concept!

At the end of the day, as I said in my last post, some people will always find methods to 'cheat/gain advantage' (delete as appropriate), and many will even argue on what is 'cheating'. If you let it get to you, it will just sour your own enjoyment and can restrict your opportunities for having fun.....

... and fun is why I play golf games in the first place.

[✠ davef ✠]

yea i kind of figure there is no way to stop it,just a shame that some resort to cheating to play a game

but then again everyone has a different ego level when it comes to gaming.

more then likely why i have been playing with the same group for so long we all have some age on us and honor was a real word

when we where coming up.

[Barry]

I remember a good few years ago playing the 2001 version of links and our club would have a club championship, I was a pretty decent player and in those day's everyone played pro click. I played a member who I'd played before in the ladder and beaten quite comfortably, But this game was different every drive he hit landed on the FW every approach

was never more than 5ft away from the pin. I finished -10 but he murdered me and I remember thinking he's really improved . Turned out he'd been using a cheat where you played links in a window and you started the swing normally with a click but then you moved your mouse cursor out of the game and clicked your desktop which slowed the meter down to a crawl so you had all the time in the world to hit the 6 o'clock snap perfectly. I mean who the hell discovered that cheat I'd never even heard of people cheating in Links until that incedent

[Gene315]

Can you imagine what would happen if there were money prizes awarded in the game.

[Davefevs]

That is why I play in handicap tours.....although I can see why others like 'real' competition.

[woodworkery]

What say we just get the game up and running before we start on the cheat BS . Man thats all you hear at wgt  cheat this and cheat that. Just get the game going

[DORITOSMANOR]

i've enjoyed this game too much to even let that become a conversation. at WGT.com i play legend tier, its a tell tale to see people get better but all i want to know is whether we will use a mouse and when do we get started. oh yeah will clubs and balls reflect actual play...spin, distance, and trajectory.