Just wanted to stick an unlooked edit in here (the thread will be discontinued as it appears the forum is, in general too simple to be ready for it yet), but when a thread like this gets hardly any interest, and yet some unfounded thread concerning itself with a 'balmpot' interpretation of creationalism (IMO and stated here on my thread - delete this thread and.....'i'll find you, i'll find your family.....you get the general idea 
), gets - up to the present time of writing - over 3 pages it just goes to show how little we have evolved as of 2015. It never ceases to amaze me how utterly backward people still are in this modern age, [particularly in the states which appears to have a chronic problem with it - the supposedly wealthiest, most advanced, most developed country on the planet - utterly staggering says deena].
Ok, I'm just starting up a thread for people who might be interested in quantum cosmology, I am not trying to be clever, it's my major hobby and I start this thread up in some shape of other everywhere I go so if you don't see the point of it being here all I can say is tough!! switch channels like u would do with your television because you don't seem to have much of a problem doing that OK.
Good.
Right, this first documentary (it's actually the second in the series out of 3 in total but I watched it first and I want to say a little piece in my own words beforehand for each one - I will release them weekly), we look at the theory of Sir Roger Penrose, which deals with a kind of cyclic big bang for want of a better description, he talks about the very large being similar to the very small (conformality), entropy and black holes, signatures of CCC (cyclic conformal cosmology is the full title of his theory) in the cosmic microwave background (CMB) - basically can we observe any direct evidence of it, and a multitude of other incredibly interesting concepts and ideas I have to say - in a way you will be able to understand, it really is so well explained at layman hobbyist level (people like me), it's bursting with fascination.......
Here's a funny thing, I found the series a few days after I wrote this somewhere else on a forum - my own ponderings last Tuesday, see how Sir Roger brings up a number of the issues I raise and answers them immaculately - My biggest gold star has to be when I question whether Steven Hawking was really wrong about loss of entropy and black holes - I mean the entire scientific community now says he WAS wrong and there I go questioning the whole of the scientific community only to fijnd that actually I have 1 backer - and that happens to be the mega-weight in quantum science himself Sir Roger Penrose (I was well happy with myself over that I must admit 
My post as it was......
Damn i feel so anxious after drinking - it really is nasty and I shall be abstaining again for a long period of time, but maybe if I can use this profile as a kind of thought sketchpad I might be able to distract myself away from this inner worry I feel.
The vacuum of space - well it's only a vacuum 'on average' you see quantum theory can only predict things in terms of probabilities, and a vacuum is 'probably' a vacuum with this amount of % it has to do with uncertainty. So what else could there be? well quantum jitters for one - the breakdown of a quantum field results in the instantaneous creation of 'virtual particles' this is allowed so long as these virtual particle-antiparticle pairs instantaneously annihilate each other thus restoring the balance of 'nothing an average'.
Black holes - now here's where black holes play a part, if these spontaneous virtual particles present themselves near the event horizon of a black hole (the point of no return from which even light cannot escape), then the anti-particle (which has negative energy, I know it's a bit of a headfuck but just accept it - energy can also be negative ok, like a photonegative of a picture let's say) may end up falling through the event horizon (it is always the anti-particle which is attracted in to the black hole, can't exactly remember why but nevermind for now), once in it cannot get back out and spontaneous annihilation cannot occur - the other particle is then radiated out from the black hole and it is this that we know as 'Hawking radiation' It means a black hole must have a temperature, no matter how small. Anyway - because the antiparticle has a negative energy it acts to erode, or evaporate the black hole and given a few trillion years or so would completely dissipate it.
So here's a little bit of 'thoughtpad' from deebna I cannot verify my ponderings - they are just that, ponderings........
It is now thought that every galaxy has at its centre a supermassive black hole, that's every galaxy, that is what the science is telling them - black holes are necessary for the creation of galaxies in the first place - and what do they do? well they munch a lot of gas and dust, the odd star that is unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time then just as your tummy after a hearty meal - they expand outwards, the event horizon grows, entropy is conserved and can be directly related to the surface area of the event horizon (another topic for another day, but was indeed the basis for the black hole wars between Steven Hawking and Leonard Susskind - Susskind was eventually shown to be right entropy is conserved so sorry about that Steven!
What I must ask is this - will the supermassive black hole eventually devour the entire galaxy that revolves around it (we go around it like a carousel once every 120 thousand years or so, the milky way galaxy is in a state or rotation about its centre u see) oh and another thing - the only stars you can see when you look to the sky every night are ones which belong to our own milky way galaxy - the eye cannot see beyond the boundaries of that. But if the growth of a black hole is perpetual - more matter in = stronger gravitational attraction = more stars fall in = expansion and stronger gravitational attraction = more stars............ Then it must be entirely conceivable that a supermassive black hole will eventually eat everything up, completely devouring the galaxy.....and then? well anti-particles enter due to quantum uncertainty and a very very long drawn out process of evaporation - does it eventually, like so many forumers i could care to mention 'dissapear up its own *** in a cascade of nastiness? and what of the second law of thermodynamics? what happens to the entropy? is this a direct violation, was Hawking right after all?? And if this was ho happen in every galaxy what would it mean for the fate of the universe? will there eventually be nothing left other than a sea of hawking radiation? I suppose it all depends on whether the universe will continue expanding forever or whether it will eventually succumb to gravity and fall back in to itself in an almighty big crunch - all I can predict is that the rides going to get rough and nothing lasts forever - not even nothing lasts forever :-) we're all doomed aren't we, this hasn't done much for my anxiety lolo but acceptence of ones fate is always an important stepping stone to overcoming isn't it.
Just want to carry on a little down here, it is allowed.....but if this conformal 're-cycling' if you like has no beginning and has been going on forever and will continue to go on forever then there are only a set number of ways you can shuffle a deck of cards - at some point the sequence will be repeated, no matter how many different combinations there are for a deck of cards because there are a finite number of cards in the first place (52) then this means there are only a finite number of arrangements of these cards in a deck and the sequence must be repeated at some point. What's more if you are shuffling and re-shuffling the deck of cards an infinite number of times that means every sequence will be repeated again an infinite number of times - now if you consider atoms to be cards and the visible universe to be the deck then there can only be a finite number of arrangements of these atoms before the sequence is repeated - do you ever feel like you have been here before? I always feel as though i'll be here again personally - ever the optimist
The nutty bit(ch).....
do it today - jump off a carpark!!!!
..........and be enthralled as you are instantaneously reborn (once u die time ceases to exist until the next time 'your' particular sequence repeats u see - no matter how many googleplexes of googleplexes of years it takes - you won't have to wait through any of that because that particular train of time won't exist to you - you will just get fast tracked to a pi55ed up night in blackpool/ baltimore in 1970 [the moment of your conception to the masses here :P ] ....... but BEWARE and make sure ur life is an interesting one, imagine how many times u r going to do it again - live for the moment and not for your pension is wisdom
that was before the invented the flux condenser 
The video is on Netflix, called Particle Fever. Its a documentary on building the LHC leading up to the discovery of the Higgs.
