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[worrybirdie]

Started my new project (because my old project was to fraught with problems). Went to draw my new fairway, and I didn't get the option to pick "fairway" it was  "unknown".  Getting very frustrated.  The CF overlay of Unity isn't as described in the video sent out so many years ago. I'm game, but tired. Now we can go on and on about how to fix my problem...but wasn't CF supposed to be about making it easier vs. a mid level interface like Unity?

[Armand]

I can't really help, other than to throw out ideas that may or may not have any merit/relevance ...

- Is your Unity 5.3.2f1 the 32-bit or 64-bit version?  Does that match your OS/hardware?

- Did you re-download CF?  Wondering if there is a bad/partially corrupt download.  I'm not even sure how you could do that.

- Does your hard drive contain bad sectors, by any chance?  Do you have plenty of free space?

- Do you have any malware or viruses on your computer?

- Is cooling on your computer/CPU/GPU sufficient?  Is it time to clean out dust-bunnies?

- What do you use for compression software?  Default Windows, WinZIP, WinRAR, 7-Zip, other?  Perhaps try another one to ensure there aren't any glitches unzipping any of the software.

- Perhaps reboot after each software installation and/or open and close the software a few times to ensure it doesn't give any errors.

- Do you need to run Unity with Admin privileges?  Are you logged in to Unity when it starts?  Is there something strange with your username that could create any type of issue, like a special character or even a space?

- Ensure you're using the 5.3.2f1 version of Unity.  Does the application need to be activated before it runs?  I have logged into Unity when it starts (my username appears in the top right of the window when it first starts).

 

Again, I'm just throwing out thoughts.  I think you probably answered some/many of these in other threads.

[worrybirdie]

Brand new computer (and very capable..I do my research). The rest of the questions are "no". (except for those that should be yes). So many questions...so little time.

[Mike Jones]

Moved to general discussion as I cant see a question here. 

[IanK]

Started my new project (because my old project was to fraught with problems). Went to draw my new fairway, and I didn't get the option to pick "fairway" it was  "unknown".  Getting very frustrated.  The CF overlay of Unity isn't as described in the video sent out so many years ago. I'm game, but tired. Now we can go on and on about how to fix my problem...but wasn't CF supposed to be about making it easier vs. a mid level interface like Unity?

I would call CF satisfyingly complicated. The fact that Untity and CF do take a while and some effort to learn should prevent PG being swamped by 100s of poor user created courses, as has happened in TGC. I know I've only scratched the surface of Unity and CF but am able to produce a half decent course. We have a powerful course creation tool that becomes more user friendly with use. Stick with it.

[Dazmaniac]

I would call CF satisfyingly complicated. The fact that Untity and CF do take a while and some effort to learn should prevent PG being swamped by 100s of poor user created courses, as has happened in TGC. I know I've only scratched the surface of Unity and CF but am able to produce a half decent course. We have a powerful course creation tool that becomes more user friendly with use. Stick with it.

 

* - couldn't agree more.

[StoneComet]

Hang in there, I just figured out a way to destroy my terrain without knowing what I did. Course forge and Unity are tough and yes a bit unwieldy but as noted above, if you put in the work the possibilities are endless. Back up everything and I would suggest, since you are starting over that you delete both Unity and Course Forge (that means deleting PG local content files through STEAM and reacquiring them) and reinstall both. Be very deliberate about everything and back up your scene, project and terrain. I would even go so far as backing all those saves up on a different drive. You can also save scenes under different names so you can go back to those as well if one of the scenes starts acting erratically.

 

I think with the Course Forge plug-in that creating a simple course is pretty straight forward (thanks to Mike's tutorials) but this is a different beast and it will require more effort than it's competitor but it has many more options and possibilities but as I said only if you put in the effort. It's not going to be for everyone which is actually a good thing in some respects. I hope you persevere and figure things out. Maybe take a small break from the game and come back fresh.

 

Cheers,

 

SC 

[axe360]

" IF it was easy, anyone could do it".  This is what many have been waiting for. I have a long way's to go to getting a good handle on it ( only because I haven't put it the time yet) but I am so Happy that it is like it is. We Never wanted something like that other game has, where you pretty much learn it in a few minutes ala "cookie cutter designer"..

 

There are many videos and very talented designers that are more than willing to help out..

 

Peace

[drillerman]

At work I use a metrology application called PC-DMIS which to some is very user unfriendly, has a lot of quirks and bugs and takes a lot of time to learn. However, should you wish to learn something badly enough it becomes a lot easier to use as you learn to work around the quirks and bugs. Course forge is a bit like PC-DMIS in this respect. It is definitely not for the casual user to jump in and out of every now and again as there are things to learn and retain. Should you want to design and build golf courses badly enough you will learn to work with the "unwieldyness" (is that even a word?) of course forge, which I found after a very short time becomes much easier.

So keep at it, it does get easier.

[J.H.Buchanan]

Using a computer game just the game itself one usually must have the patience, desire, and intelligence of a "gamer" it can be aggravating. much different than email, typing up a document, watching videos on YouTube.  Playing online is usually more bothersome than simply playing something against the AI.  Online involves internet connection data spikes internet crashes password glitches everything. so anyway, Then when one tackles course design they should expect a more in depth experience of aggravation and surprises it just part of gaming when you go to design the game you already have to your own liking you may get surprises. Back stuff up ad nauseum.  To appreciate Course Forge not that you don't already give homage to it one should consider those that have grown up with pc games then golf games with other Course Creators they were pathetic a joke and could all of a sudden the entire course be corrupted even your last save or the one before that had some hidden problem in the mesh that you didn't even see or the water worked before but now since you reinstalled the game the water does not work why .... it was a nightmare. CF is simple You can go as simple or complex as you like.  

[Acrilix]

...... with other Course Creators they were pathetic a joke and could all of a sudden the entire course be corrupted even your last save or the one before that had some hidden problem in the mesh that you didn't even see or the water worked before but now since you reinstalled the game the water does not work why .... it was a nightmare. 

 

You can have all of this in CF too. Just give it time! 

[J.H.Buchanan]

You can have all of this in CF too. Just give it time! 

 

I made a 2nd hole with water figure I would piddle with that I'm just a virgin with a chastity belt. So I made the hole ... let's see how it looks ... see what its like to fly over the water into it ... etc. The course wouldn't load went back to the hole piddled with this and that then started from scratch deleted everything but Unity and the CF download - Yes went that far back then started making a course again doing hole 1 then remembered something about using Caps and if ya do the course won't load made a hole 1 and it loaded ... didn't use caps they make us videos show us what not to do and some of us do it anyway it's quite mind boggling. I even took notes. But I love CF more than my dog well no, more than my cat. 

[worrybirdie]

Must admit that the fidgitiness of Unity makes it more of an affliction than an addiction. What keeps us going back?

[pingzing]

Just to let you know your not the only one in this rocky boat mate, the seas are never calm on this voyage

 

When i started i annoyed many people with waves of questions. When a problem or task  arose that i did or didnt know,

i decided to write it down, an old man told me once the palest of ink is better than the best memory

Here is are my notes from day one and there growing day by day, take this read it and add to it, its your new friend on the high seas 

 

https://drive.google...S3ItYzhVU0xJRVk

 

Cheers

[olazaboll]

I have used APCD since the days of Links 2001 .. (Must been 17 years now ) and I never even got to the point of doing seamblends , because I thought It would probably gonna drive me nuts ... This "terrifying moment" of seamblends is done in a blink of an eye in CF and it is just great ..... It feels like Ive been driving around in a Beetle for 17 years and now stepped in to  a Porsche 

I have had some small set backs in CF as well , but I cant think of one thing that wasn't caused by me, missunderstanding the tutorials 

Keep On Rocking !!!

[Dazmaniac]

Yeah, I keep dabbling and building holes here and there, hitting snags. But I then look at all the courses that the guys are pushing out, we have over 100 now, so I know CF works, lol.

Just keep dabbling and learning.

[Griz891]

Started my new project (because my old project was to fraught with problems). Went to draw my new fairway, and I didn't get the option to pick "fairway" it was  "unknown".  Getting very frustrated.  The CF overlay of Unity isn't as described in the video sent out so many years ago. I'm game, but tired. Now we can go on and on about how to fix my problem...but wasn't CF supposed to be about making it easier vs. a mid level interface like Unity?

I feel your pain....I played around with CF for about 5 hours one night. Still don't have a clue and that's after watching all the tutorial videos so don't feel bad...LOL

[Dazmaniac]

I feel your pain....I played around with CF for about 5 hours one night. Still don't have a clue and that's after watching all the tutorial videos so don't feel bad...LOL

 

Was it actually CF you struggled with, or was it actually Unity with the elevations, sculpting etc?

 

I find CF and the splines for tees, fairways, rough, bunkers etc. to be reasonably user friendly and a lot less hassle than what the APCD used to be in Links 2003. Unity on the other hand can be a PITA at times.

[axe360]

Ever try the TW' CA? One wrong move and you can ruin the entire course. Of course, you learn fast to keep backups. I would have easy a 100 for one course.