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#1 M Rose

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 02:51 AM

I have an external hard drive that just died and had a lot of old course files on it. While waiting to see if I can recover it, I'm backing up all my existing stuff to cloud storage and it is taking FOREVER, like 2 hours for ONE scene folder.

 

I've used up 90 percent of my desktop storage space and obviously I need to clear stuff out, but I'm also finding myself wondering how much of it is wasted by having a copy of the same files in every single folder. All the PP files, all the PP library files, all the same Assets, pretty much all the same trees, textures etc..

 

Is anybody working with one default Unity Project and able to re-use it over and over? I assume switching out scenes and terrains is workable.

 

Pretty much every course project folder is pushing 50-60 GB and it's really becoming a major PITA to move them around to other drives and directories.

 

It also occurred to me - if I just move the scene, library, and terrain files over to a separate folder, do I need to copy anything else? Obviously it would save tons of time and space if that's all I needed to keep. Importing those three things into a separate project should theoretically keep things intact, right?


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Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:20 AM

Matt,  Have you thought about investing in a 500GB SSD?

 

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 02:45 PM

These go onsale from time-to-time (techbargains) and if you have USB 3.1 they are lighting quick.  I got the 500GB version and have nothing but my courses on it.  For my current WIP I alternate saving between my non-system internal drive then the SanDisk (back and forth).  That way I always have some version of it on two different drives.

 

Its amazing how fast the drive is when using USB 3.1.  It does come with and adapter cable if you don't have 3.1.

 

https://www.amazon.c...le?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

 

I copy the whole folder... Its big, but it seems to work well when you need to recover.


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Posted 11 August 2019 - 04:03 PM

I have an external hard drive that just died and had a lot of old course files on it. While waiting to see if I can recover it, I'm backing up all my existing stuff to cloud storage and it is taking FOREVER, like 2 hours for ONE scene folder.

I've used up 90 percent of my desktop storage space and obviously I need to clear stuff out, but I'm also finding myself wondering how much of it is wasted by having a copy of the same files in every single folder. All the PP files, all the PP library files, all the same Assets, pretty much all the same trees, textures etc..

Is anybody working with one default Unity Project and able to re-use it over and over? I assume switching out scenes and terrains is workable.

Pretty much every course project folder is pushing 50-60 GB and it's really becoming a major PITA to move them around to other drives and directories.

It also occurred to me - if I just move the scene, library, and terrain files over to a separate folder, do I need to copy anything else? Obviously it would save tons of time and space if that's all I needed to keep. Importing those three things into a separate project should theoretically keep things intact, right?

Probably internet related, I have all my files backed up to both one drive’s cloud and acronis true image cloud simultaneously and it works seamlessly for me. My connection is a 150/150 frontier FIOS line. If your internet line is fast, you very well might be getting throttled to certain cloud storage providers. I used to use carbonite and they started throttling things so initial backups seemed to take forever but new stuff wasn’t too bad.

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Posted 11 August 2019 - 06:36 PM

I'm not really looking for hard drives; I'm more interested in making my course files and scenes more economical.

 

My average course folder is about 10-15 GB and has roughly 50,000 files in it, and 80 percent of those files I probably have copies of in every single course folder (trees, libraries, standard assets, etc).

 

Is anyone able to just design in one master Unity project without needing to copy 10 GB worth of crap everytime they start a new one? I guess I feel like I'm wasting a lot of time and space, as said before.

 

Also when it comes to backing up, it is the same issue - I realized I'm backing up the same stuff over and over again with the only difference being a few things like the terrain, the scene, and the flag, splash, etc..

 

 


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Posted 11 August 2019 - 10:48 PM

Matt I have never tried this but yeah that almost seems like it would work because if you keep all the same objects and such in a folder all you would need is to copy over the stuff you talked about and then just open the scene file and continue working on that one. I would imagine you could have all the .scene files, flags and splash screen in one folder if they are all named differently and just move each Terrain.asset file because that is the only thing you can't rename but you could I believe back it up with a different name and when opening the scene it will probably go to that terrain file and load that as well?

 

I have not tried this stuff but wow would that save a ton of room.


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Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:00 AM

Matt I have never tried this but yeah that almost seems like it would work because if you keep all the same objects and such in a folder all you would need is to copy over the stuff you talked about and then just open the scene file and continue working on that one. I would imagine you could have all the .scene files, flags and splash screen in one folder if they are all named differently and just move each Terrain.asset file because that is the only thing you can't rename but you could I believe back it up with a different name and when opening the scene it will probably go to that terrain file and load that as well?

 

I have not tried this stuff but wow would that save a ton of room.

Not sure how a ton of room would be saved. All the assets would still be there -just brought from a single source instead of many. There again, not all assets are used on every course so someone could end up with many more files than were necessary even if they were quick to install. For example, I choose specific Speedtree trees for each project. I don't want them all in every project. Same with grasses and bushes and buildings and everything else. If doing a links course no trees may be needed.


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Posted 12 August 2019 - 12:37 AM

I tend to re-use most of the same trees and bushes so that wouldn't be a huge issue for me.

 

I actually tried merging all the desert courses into one scene set and it seems to have worked; maybe instead of one master, I could try a small group of the tied to different styles.


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Posted 12 August 2019 - 01:35 AM

Not sure how a ton of room would be saved. All the assets would still be there -just brought from a single source instead of many. There again, not all assets are used on every course so someone could end up with many more files than were necessary even if they were quick to install. For example, I choose specific Speedtree trees for each project. I don't want them all in every project. Same with grasses and bushes and buildings and everything else. If doing a links course no trees may be needed.

 

Correct with all the objects issue but you don't have to use them. Again I have not tried this so I have no idea if it works but instead of the 50 GB's I have with 4-5 courses in my folder I keep all my unity designs I can have one 10 GB folder with everything even if I don't use this certain tree or not. With all the crap I accumulate sometimes even with (2 SSD drives and 1 external data drive) it could be worth it especially when I keep adding to my JNPG collection which is now at 45 GB and I still am missing lots of courses I have not downloaded yet..lol

 

40 GB saved right there....


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