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[RobV]

Simple question... are you still playing Perfect Golf?    I am  and probably more than ever.   After years of trying to convince my brother and a friend, who I have been playing Links for years, decided to move to PG.    Over the last year or more, we have been having a blast.   Designing courses are fun as well, however, I am not sure how much more longer I will be doing that.  

 

If you are somewhat or not playing PG, have you moved on to another golf game or just another game in general?   At my age, I have no desire to learn modern games, so I will stick with PG for as long as it lasts. 

 

RV

[shanker01]

yes still playing. not as much as before cause I am getting old!!!!!!

[Buck]

Not anymore.

 

My uncle, who'd I'd been playing PC Golf with since the early 1990s, finally timed out.

 

Dementia sucks.

He lost the ability to remember what to do ... shot to shot ... so it was just impossible to play really.

 

It was a great run, but I haven't really had any desire to fire up PG (or any other golf game for that matter) since we quit a couple months ago.

 

[xooze]

Once or twice a week, or if a new course is released.

[jt83]

Buck, on 30 Apr 2025 - 10:44 PM, said:

Not anymore.

 

My uncle, who'd I'd been playing PC Golf with since the early 1990s, finally timed out.

 

Dementia sucks.

He lost the ability to remember what to do ... shot to shot ... so it was just impossible to play really.

 

It was a great run, but I haven't really had any desire to fire up PG (or any other golf game for that matter) since we quit a couple months ago.

 

 

Sorry to hear it.

 

I still play when I get the hankering for a certain course.  Haven't been into CF lately, but I want to try a few things.

[remers]

A bit like Buck, I play every Tues and Thurs with my brother and have been since UK covid lockdown started in 2020.  Still going but there are times when I would love for a better option.  PGA 2K25 looks decent but I fear that will be just another iteration of the same game and how I would love for the Trackman Virtual Golf software to transform into something on PC to play.  Really appreciate the course updates though Rob so thanks for those.

[RobV]

jt83, on 01 May 2025 - 12:46 PM, said:

Sorry to hear it.

 

I still play when I get the hankering for a certain course.  Haven't been into CF lately, but I want to try a few things.

I noticed on PGLS that most of your courses are still listed as 'beta'.   Any plans on bringing them to "final"?   In your opinion, do they still need to be finished?    I've played a few and they played fine for me, found no issues and played rather nicely.   

[RobV]

remers, on 01 May 2025 - 2:43 PM, said:

Really appreciate the course updates though Rob so thanks for those.

You are welcome.   Designing courses is fun and it is great when they come to life, but not sure how many I have left in me.   I have a few that are pretty much completed and have been sitting on my hard drive for quite some time.  I just never liked the way they turned out, so I did not release them.   I definitely have learned a lot with each course build so maybe I apply the newly learned techniques, assets, etc. to these courses to make them better.   It certainly would be less tedious than starting a new course from scratch.  

[jt83]

RobV, on 01 May 2025 - 3:31 PM, said:

I noticed on PGLS that most of your courses are still listed as 'beta'.   Any plans on bringing them to "final"?   In your opinion, do they still need to be finished?    I've played a few and they played fine for me, found no issues and played rather nicely.   

 

There are rainy day plans to get them to a point where I'm happy.  Some are all but done, others like Brookwater need forests of gum trees...the GS Pro guys are probably doing it in 5 mins with AI.

 

I'm all but done with PC gaming too.  Various factors.

[JoeF]

Still play most days but have cut back to 9 hole rounds most of the time. Still enjoy the game as much as ever, probably because I RTS and every shot is a new experience.    While there are other good golf games out there PG is still the best game of golf.

[Keith]

I still play a couple of times a week.  Like others have said, it's still the best golf game out there even after all this time.  TGC simply can not touch the shot values and ball physics of PG..don't care how many updates they put out.  Still highly frustrates me that the game was abandoned, but it still holds some entertainment value for me.

Enjoy dabbling w/CF when time permits.  Burn out can be a real thing w/it, but I've learned to just take breaks here and there.  Have a course in the early stages I'm hoping to get to the finish line at some point later.

[tanman05851]

I still play the occasional round with Phil Mucklebot. So much of PG feels just right.
On a different topic -wouldn't Wissahickon make a perfect course?

[Riddler]

RobV, on 01 May 2025 - 3:31 PM, said:

I noticed on PGLS that most of your courses are still listed as 'beta'.   Any plans on bringing them to "final"?   In your opinion, do they still need to be finished?    I've played a few and they played fine for me, found no issues and played rather nicely.   

If you think they are fine, then let Mark know. He can take the beta off the course name.

I still play every day and will until I can't anymore, physically.

[slouis]

I played a round in PG for the first time in a few months using RTSM at Pro difficulty at River Highlands since that was where the PGA tournament just finished yesterday.  Shot 9 over 79 with zero birdies and 1 triple.  Still enjoyed it and even after 11 years it is the golf game I would keep if I could only choose one.

In my opinion it is still the best PC golf game and that is because of RTSM.  It is hands down the best swing mechanic ever created for a golf game because it simulates the key elements of a real golf swing through the movement of a mouse.  And like a real golf swing the tempo is never the same which means that it doesn't become repetitiive and boring.  In addition there is no meter which to me is equivalent to being allowed to take a Trackman with you during a round.  PG even has that simulated  since when using RTSM you get a display of your tempo and swing path ONLY when you are on the driving range or in practice mode on a course.  

As for graphics, EA Sports PGA has the best but PG is better than any of the 2K golf games including 2K25.  In addition because PG's course architect allows you to create and export everything from objects to panoramas the courses created by the community are each unique in how they look and feel.  Compare this to the 2K creations which are limited to the objects and panos that come with the game which is why all their community courses are so similar.  PG also is also way more immersive in that you can move to any point on the course for a first person view.  I remember checking out the interior of a small church on Wells Hollow.  In other words it is a 3D environment unlike EA or 2K.

PG has the best replay options of any golf game and puts other games to shame.  9 camera angles compared to 2k25's where you have to manipulate the viewing position.  EA Sports doesn't even have a replay.

You can play PG  using the BLI which is a very creative option to the grid.

Unfortunately, PG was abandoned before features like being able to create your own avatar, and the option to save more than one round at a time. I would have also liked more stats such as total feet of putts made in a round.  I am hoping that this game ends up like Links where there are programmers in the community knowledgeable enough to add features like the ones I mentioned and more.  Finally, look at the courses on Virtual Golf 3 for Trackman and you will see what PG courses would look like today if the game had continued it's development or if Trackman ever decides to release a TM PC golf game.  With those graphics and current PG features and options plus RTSM it would be a pc golf game that would appeal to people who play the real game.