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[Crusher]

[IanD]

Interesting stuff certainly... and certainly something MS should not have included. However, this is a larger can of worms that isn going to not only get opened, but become incredibly messy. Eductaion, is perhaps the word needed, without necessarily giving people tools.

[Crusher]

Well Ian, I think we both can agree that the can has been opened for a long time with social networking. Now Microsoft has opened Pandora's Box. Sadly, apathy will override the tediousness of disabling these features.

 

After all, you know what dummies like to say, "What, Me worry?"

 

[Parboy]

Not that difficult to pay attention during set-up and installation when you are asked up front to enable/disable these "features".

[Mulligan]

http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

 

Testing 10 on an old laptop, this free app does nicely.

[Parboy]

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/28/technology/microsoft-windows-10-privacy/index.html

[mebby]

Just my $0.02 here...  

Maybe I'm blissfully unaware and overly trusting but I do not think that a company like Microsoft would maliciously spy on our personal data.  This simply goes back to the age-old expression of making sure you trust a developer before using their software.  If I can't trust Microsoft then I might as well go crawl in a cave and avoid any modern technological luxuries.  

 

I feel like sometimes people are just looking for something to get all riled up over. If you don't like the W10 interface then that's understandable.  Don't use it and stick with what you like.  But I don't get why people are attacking Microsoft for security issues.  If you're concerned with what they're doing then you best be taking a REALLY hard look at what Android and IOS are doing with your phones.

 

Again, I'm sure to many of you I'm just a moron and overly trusting.  But I just don't have time to sit around and stress out over whether Microsoft is doing something wonky with my information.  It's not worth it to me.  The whole thing just has a conspiracy theory tone to it and if you allow yourself you'll find something that makes you paranoid even if it's completely benign.  

[Crusher]

Dear Windows 10 lovers,

 

You're welcome that I brought this privacy issue to the forefront. Otherwise your mics and keyboards would be broadcasting your dirty little secrets -  

[mebby]

Dear Windows 10 lovers,

You're welcome that I brought this privacy issue to the forefront. Otherwise your mics and keyboards would be broadcasting your dirty little secrets -

I'm assuming this is a joke. You don't truly believe that this is happening right?

[tlvx]

I'm assuming this is a joke. You don't truly believe that this is happening right?

 

The question is not whether or not it is happening. That has already been confirmed.

 

It seems like you are taking the approach that; "Well, surely no one would actually be listening in, at the other end..." Or, "If one has nothing to hide, than certainly, one would not have any concerns..."

 

It is not enough to merely have good intentions, despite committing blatant privacy infringements. Otherwise, who's to say that putting a camera in the loo is not well intended, either.. for our own security?

 

If there aren't already, there should be actionable laws, that prevent anyone from actively recording one's microphone; or worse yet, logging the keys that one types. Doing it under the guise of providing a service should be prohibited, as well.

 

If you cannot see the worst case scenario brewing there; than I'm afraid you have the term, "overly trusting," mistaken for, naivety.

[mebby]

The question is not whether or not it is happening. That has already been confirmed.

It seems like you are taking the approach that; "Well, surely no one would actually be listening in, at the other end..." Or, "If one has nothing to hide, than certainly, one would not have any concerns..."

It is not enough to merely have good intentions, despite committing blatant privacy infringements. Otherwise, who's to say that putting a camera in the loo is not well intended, either.. for our own security?

If there aren't already, there should be actionable laws, that prevent anyone from actively recording one's microphone; or worse yet, logging the keys that one types. Doing it under the guise of providing a service should be prohibited, as well.

If you cannot see the worst case scenario brewing there; than I'm afraid you have the term, "overly trusting," mistaken for, naivety.

So you're telling me that msft has been doing this or someone else has hacked in to do this?

Two completely different issues.

[Crusher]

"overly trusting," mistaken for, naivety...

 

Naivety runs rampant most likely because of apathy.  People today have search engines to find every spin on truths. The major problem is they just don't care to do the research then extrapalote.

 

They will once they get bitten.

[mebby]

The how about someone googling up some proof of this privacy nightmare for me because I can't seem to find much.

Maybe I don't know how to properly use these new fangled search engines though....

[mebby]

Here's an interesting article.

http://lifehacker.co...ally-1722267229

[Crusher]

Maybe I don't know how to properly use these new fangled search engines though....

 

I'm sure you know know how to use them, it's the extrapolation part they may be difficult for you.

 

Extrapolation is not everyone's forte'.

[mebby]

I'm sure you know know how to use them, it's the extrapolation part they may be difficult for you.

Extrapolation is not everyone's forte'.

Then please help me extrapolate. I'm still having trouble finding where Microsoft is exploiting their access to our personal data. In fact, all I'm seeing is them going to great lengths to protect our privacy while also trying to harness some information for our benefit.

[tlvx]

I'm still having trouble finding where Microsoft is exploiting their access to our personal data.

 

If someone placed a camera inside your master bathroom, would you need to prove that they were actually watching the feed on the other end, to prove that it was inappropriate to put a camera there, in the first place?

[Acrilix]

Naivety runs rampant most likely because of apathy.  People today have search engines to find every spin on truths. The major problem is they just don't care to do the research then extrapalote.

 

They will once they get bitten.

 

 

Most search engines are also collecting information from every user's search words. Google take this one step further by reading every email you send too. Google’s ads use information gleaned from a user’s email combined with data from their Google profile as a whole, including search results, map requests and YouTube views, to display what it considers are relevant ads in the hope that the user is more likely to click on them and generate more advertising revenue for Google.

[Parboy]

I have Windows 10 on 5 PC's now. If you pay attention during set up after the install you can set Windows 10 to be as secure as any other operating system. It appears there are some that believe we should have stopped at Windows 3.1

[mebby]

If someone placed a camera inside your master bathroom, would you need to prove that they were actually watching the feed on the other end, to prove that it was inappropriate to put a camera there, in the first place?

That example is so far out of the context of this scenario that it really doesn't even relate.