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#21 RobV

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 11:05 PM

Being Links reincarnated is the best compliment a PC golf game could get.  ;) My purpose is not to slam TGC as I have it and I play it, (occasionaly) but I've been testing PP for some time now and you can't even compare the two if your looking for a true representation of a "real" round of golf. And PP is still in Beta stage.  ;)

I think it was me who said it was Links "reincarnated"... something like that have been a Links player for years and this game will be the closest thing to it... then the avalanche of nutty posts.     And I agree...  not going to bash one game because I don't like it.. many do, good for them.   PG is something that I feel will cater to my golfing needs for the simple reason that it does look, feel, and most likely play like Links.   I am happy for that alone.  


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 06:50 AM

Fee-fi-fo-fo-fum and we have not even teed off yet. 

Lets also hope communication is good here including day 1 transparency over pricing.

 Swing wise I am on the fence.  At the end of the day no video golf game is going to be too good at really capturing that RL essence IMO, but what they can do is not get so video gaming fiddly that we lose golfs sweet essence. Seems you guys have given it much thought though which is promising.  

Looking forward to seeing what the actual game play is like for sure:) In all honesty that's what I am looking for most of all.  A good rock solid sim offering best in class realism whilst also robust against cheating. 


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 05:11 PM

is there prize money for cheating? if not why do they do it? they just cheating themselves, not knowing how good they really are.


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 07:33 AM

is there prize money for cheating? if not why do they do it? they just cheating themselves, not knowing how good they really are.

You only need to introduce credits that can be won to pay for something / allow gifting with credits.  Just those two things it will be rife if it can be, and that's before real world prizes or any credit based entry fee competition.  It remains a concern for anyone thinking more than casual paying to play for fun is what they want.  

Cheating is the achilles heel of another place for many.  Much still to unravel and I wish this place well with it all:)


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 02:45 PM

Fee-fi-fo-fo-fum and we have not even teed off yet. 

Lets also hope communication is good here including day 1 transparency over pricing.

 Swing wise I am on the fence.  At the end of the day no video golf game is going to be too good at really capturing that RL essence IMO, but what they can do is not get so video gaming fiddly that we lose golfs sweet essence. Seems you guys have given it much thought though which is promising.  

Looking forward to seeing what the actual game play is like for sure:) In all honesty that's what I am looking for most of all.  A good rock solid sim offering best in class realism whilst also robust against cheating. 

 

Not sure how much more transparent it can be. It's 19.99 for the EA release on Steam (which is free) It's been stated many times, you buy the game and play. For me if they offer DLC's for a manufacturers top line of customizable shafts for clubs I have no issue with that. That's what happens in real life. And just because you have that in the game doesn't mean you're buying an enhancement that's going to give you special shot powers over other players. Hell you may buy them and find out that with you're swing style you shoot worse. Almost every video game on the market today offers DLC's for a price, car packs etc. 

 

Game play is also going to be dependent on your computer. This is a fully developed video game that uses amongst other things, real time weather influences  and various physics engines. It's going to require a certain amount of horsepower to play comfortably and also at the highest settings. 

 

If you're a gamer who's had any exposure to games such as Doom 3 when it was first released back in the day, well you know what happened there. Hell iD pretty well drove video card companies to R&D insanity trying to come out with cards to run that game at Ultra High settings. If you're running old Intel 3000 HD graphics and a 1.7 C2D processor you're not going to be playing this game at it's full potential and that has absolutely nothing to do with PP / PG. That's on you.

 

What I find funny and just a little sad, because it's so apparent now how deeply ingrained it is in the majority of them, is how suspicious and absolutely  paranoid  players / customers coming from WGT are. It's not without reason or justification either. That company out and out simply put, throws so many traps and crass revenue abusive elements into that game that anyone with any sort of intelligence can see what they're doing. One only needs to look at the latest ball gifting with no confirmation step fiasco. They do that sort of thing all the time and it's for one purpose only.

 

So while I don't think PP needs to go overboard with it, I do think perhaps in some cases like DLC's it would be in their interest, where players who are coming from that game over here to see what it's about and how it plays etc, to make sure it's very clear on costs and added costs, in game monies to be paid for whatever so that those fears are stomped out right away. And they are legit fears for those players. I myself spent over 600.00 of my own money there on clubs, ball types etc, some from being dumb, but mostly because I was under the impression I was buying upgraded equipment that would allow me to play too a higher level - that assumption was and is utterly false.


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 05:08 PM

My thought is this.  EA Has released some real great games over the years.  Heck If I remember correctly they created Tiger Woods Golf.   Which exploded on gaming systems as well as PC play.    Although yes EA has also released some Crappy games also.      I say one thing over at WGT you could play for free.   As they don't charge to play.     The fact that PP is charging a fee just to be able to play should tell you something.   It is probably going to be a WINNER.       And I think the investors here are willing to go the extra mile.   As this is their one shot at success.   After all the time and money already spent by them to this point.    I say its definitely worth a look.     AC



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 06:53 PM

My thought is this.  EA Has released some real great games over the years.  Heck If I remember correctly they created Tiger Woods Golf.   Which exploded on gaming systems as well as PC play.    Although yes EA has also released some Crappy games also.      I say one thing over at WGT you could play for free.   As they don't charge to play.     The fact that PP is charging a fee just to be able to play should tell you something.   It is probably going to be a WINNER.       And I think the investors here are willing to go the extra mile.   As this is their one shot at success.   After all the time and money already spent by them to this point.    I say its definitely worth a look.     AC

 

I think you're confused on the EA part. It's not EA as in Sports, it's Early Access.

 

As for WGT being free - Unless you haven't played there or are only playing as a Hack Level 9 player yourself for fun? You most certainly cannot play at WGT for free. Let me be clear with that  - You can tee up a ball and hit it around their courses and never pay anything. You will never play their game as a golf game, you will never win credits in tournaments or anything else without upgrading your equipment and that takes real world money paid to WGT in some form or fashion. 

 

The fact that PP is charging for the EA release tells me plenty. Tells me they're legitimate. I'm going to assume you understand the business model of giving the initial product away for free and then when the consumer is no longer satisfied and needs something or wants something stronger, something of higher quality they suddenly have to start forking out large amounts of money. You get that, right?  

 

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 09:13 PM

I think you're confused on the EA part. It's not EA as in Sports, it's Early Access.

 

Ha, Ha,  that's what comes of it when you are using abbreviations all the time. I think It is not too much to ask for if you use the full expression at least in the firrst use. I'm german and I often have often difficulties to understand whats the issue.

 


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 09:43 PM

The one brilliant thing about this game is that you will be certain nobody is hacking the program to get those scores of 53, you can't trust anything based on flash - it's just an open platform to corruption. WGT is a gambling game in the guise of golf and where there's gambling involved you will always find cheating, combine gambling with flash and the whole interior is rotten to the core. I never had any doubt that their 'hallowed champions' were cheating their socks off with packet editors and the like - though you would get pounced on if you took that opinion it was always strange that no matter what they tried to do to increase the difficulty it was always the same bracket of players who never ever seemed to be affected and scored their 53's regardless - which is simply impossible because their VEM system will simply not allow it, it will deviate putts (even if you got the right line e.t.c) with too much frequency for you ever to be able to come off a course 20 under par - and everytime too, G.T.F.O.O.H!!! - WGT your champions are a sham and you are big wallies for believing anything otherwise. 

Anyway enough of them, let's get focused on 'our' game and forget the past.



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 09:44 PM

 

I think you're confused on the EA part. It's not EA as in Sports, it's Early Access.

 

Ha, Ha,  that's what comes of it when you are using abbreviations all the time. I think It is not too much to ask for if you use the full expression at least in the firrst use. I'm german and I often have often difficulties to understand whats the issue.

 

 

 

True, oddly for some reason I've not had anyone refer to EA Sports when I mention it's and EA release on Steam. Maybe it's because I usually mention the Steam part of it. 


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Posted 20 January 2015 - 02:45 PM

Being Links reincarnated is the best compliment a PC golf game could get.  ;) My purpose is not to slam TGC as I have it and I play it, (occasionaly) but I've been testing PP for some time now and you can't even compare the two if your looking for a true representation of a "real" round of golf. And PP is still in Beta stage.  ;)

Well Sinewiz, thats interesting to know. I didn't buy TGC because somewhere, something didn't appealed to me. The views were nice enough and TGC does have more 'glitch' to it, but somehow it just did not 'tickle' me enough I guess..Links for me, playing RTS/Elite, still has the greatest appeal, especially ballflight, balldynamics, roll etc. Shure, Links should have been upgraded, but it's still a great sim regardless. Comparing Links to PG is not fair in that regard I guess. Now PG is coming around the corner, it looks it is going to the next fase. These are exiting times! :P  


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