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[jspirate]

I tried searching without luck, so I am posting my question here.

 

I am on hole 17 of my first course and I am trying to make a dogleg that is greater than 90 degrees.  This results in a tee to green distance of 245 yards.  As a result, when I place the tee it points towards the green.  I assume the game sees the whole as a par 3?   I will have many trees blocking a tee shot to the green, so there is no way a reasonable person would go for the green.  The shot should be to the fairway and then to the green.

 

The hole is set up as a par 4 and I tried using a 1st shot marker, but the tee still points towards the green.  I even tried making the 1st shot marker distance less than 245 yards, but the tee still points to the green.

 

Is there a way to make the tee point to the fairway?  Or maybe its silly to make a dogleg that is greater than 90 degrees?  It doesn't look all that out of wack to me?  Although, I've never played a real golf hole that bends more than 90 degrees...

[Crow357]

No.   The game logic will override your shot points when the pin is close enough for a club in your bag to reach.  This was done in the early days because people were complaining on short par 5's that the camera wasn't pointed at the green for a reachable 2nd shot.

[jspirate]

No.   The game logic will override your shot points when the pin is close enough for a club in your bag to reach.  This was done in the early days because people were complaining on short par 5's that the camera wasn't pointed at the green for a reachable 2nd shot.

 

If I understand you correctly...  The default yardage on a driver is 276 yards (If memory serves me right), So, in my picture above, if I place all pins 277 yards or greater, the shot marker will make the tee point to the fairway?

[Kablammo11]

Not quite: The magic number here is 250 yds: The distance to pin at which the game automatically shifts from aiming at shot points to aiming at flags (this is based on the 3W as being the highest club that players can reasonably select to go after the green in 2 on par 5's). Either move your tees a bit back or towards the top of your image to gain those few yards and achieve the desired effect.

Make sure that you measure the distance to the nearest flag to the tee, not the center of the green. Also, your forward tees of course will still be afflicted by this, since they are all closer to the target.

[jspirate]

Not quite: The magic number here is 250 yds: The distance to pin at which the game automatically shifts from aiming at shot points to aiming at flags (this is based on the 3W as being the highest club that players can reasonably select to go after the green in 2 on par 5's). Either move your tees a bit back or towards the top of your image to gain those few yards and achieve the desired effect.

Make sure that you measure the distance to the nearest flag to the tee, not the center of the green. Also, your forward tees of course will still be afflicted by this, since they are all closer to the target.

 

This is great news.  Well, until I consider your second point about the other tees.  I've been trying to make a set of tees usable for the simulator guys (50 yards shorter than the back tees).  Re-aiming into the fairway will be a pain for them because they will not be able to use the overhead view to re-aim.  The overhead view of the hole doesn't capture where the shot marker is.  It captures tee to green.  I wish we could control what that shows.  If I could just zoom out a little...

[Kablammo11]

You can't zoom out, the top view is an automatic in-game mechanism. It is what it is and we have to make do with how it is.

 

Your basic choice is to keep your original hole and risk aggravating/inconveniencing players OR change the entire hole layout to bring it more in line with less extreme golf design practices. If you want that particular hole to be shaped that way, just go ahead and leave it as it is: No matter if players will be bothered to spend 3 seconds to figure out what to do. You are the creator, so just create to your heart's desire. 

[jspirate]

Thanks for the feedback.

I decided to scrap the whole and start over.  Going with a more conventional dogleg that will be darn close to 90 degrees.

[TimBoch]

Solely from a design standpoint, doglegs greater than 90 degrees are beyond "typical" design. In the above example, It would seem the land would allow a better designed hole layout and still provide risks and rewards.

[grumpter]

With a fictional course it's probably not too much of an issue to readjust the layout but without thinking much about it I can find at least a dozen examples of real world courses in my immediate area where it would be an issue. I guarantee there are a good number more if I would actually give it a lot of thought. When I have my 8 person scramble I'm sure there is going to be some ribbing coming my way about the tee shot pointing into the trees.