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#1 lefty1948

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 08:56 PM

Meter moves faster for long putts than short putts.

Shouldn't it be the same for both? Only adjust the strength

of your stroke for the required distance.

 

 



#2 Mike Jones

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 09:02 PM

The meter moves slower on putts less than 6 feet as in testing before release most people found that at full speed is was too fast to be accurate and short putting was a bit of a lottery. 


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 09:33 PM

Meter moves faster for long putts than short putts.

Shouldn't it be the same for both? Only adjust the strength

of your stroke for the required distance.

 

Jim, that's by design. With the new putting meter, short putts under 6 ft. required 3 excessively fast clicks making it almost impossible for an uncoordinated player like me to even come close to hitting the snap. Short putts can still be difficult however, it there's much break. Still need to be able to read. As you know, 'Reading is Fundamental'.


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Posted 13 June 2015 - 11:11 PM

Love this update, heading in the right direction,  putting is harder now but much more realistic, and slower at 6ft, sweet touch there

 

well done mike and team



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 06:56 PM

ya should be the same medium speed for all shots



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 09:59 PM

I'll add this here, as seems an appropriate thread.

 

On a flat green running 10 stimp, the meter has a putt distance of:-

 

9 o'clock hit = 32 ft

12 o'clock hit = 90 ft

 

Hope this helps a few folks out there trying to come to terms with the new 'flagless' meter.

 

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 10:30 PM

Meter moves faster for long putts than short putts.

Shouldn't it be the same for both? Only adjust the strength

of your stroke for the required distance.

A lot of us aren't up to pro level yet and prefer the slower meter.



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 10:35 PM

I'll add this here, as seems an appropriate thread.

 

On a flat green running 10 stimp, the meter has a putt distance of:-

 

9 o'clock hit = 32 ft

12 o'clock hit = 90 ft

 

Hope this helps a few folks out there trying to come to terms with the new 'flagless' meter.

 

;)

This is from the release notes;

"We have also significantly improved the putting experience. Gone is the flag on the putting meter and instead we have a full putting meter where the player must determine the strength of putt as well as direction. A full 12 o clock swing will go approximately 70 odd feet and around 30 at the 9 o'clcok. It is scaled slightly exponentially. Below the swing meter is an indicator that says whether you are putting inside or outside 6ft. When inside the swingmeter will move at half pace to make setting short distances much easier and remove the machine gun 3 click effect "



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 11:14 PM

This is from the release notes;

"We have also significantly improved the putting experience. Gone is the flag on the putting meter and instead we have a full putting meter where the player must determine the strength of putt as well as direction. A full 12 o clock swing will go approximately 70 odd feet and around 30 at the 9 o'clcok. It is scaled slightly exponentially. Below the swing meter is an indicator that says whether you are putting inside or outside 6ft. When inside the swingmeter will move at half pace to make setting short distances much easier and remove the machine gun 3 click effect "

 

Appreciate the post RustyMike.

 

I'm testing a BETA build and have just posted what I experienced whilst putting on a flat green with a stimpmeter setting of 10. I have no idea what stimpmeter setting the Dev's used when arriving at their distances. I'll go and do a bit more testing.

 

Stimp Meter = 9

9 o'clock = 29 ft

12 o'clock = 77 ft

 

Stimp Meter = 10

9 o'clock hit = 32 ft

12 o'clock hit = 90 ft

 

Stimp Meter = 11

9 o'clock hit = 36 ft

12 o'clock hit = 32 yds

 

Like I say, these are my findings. My clicks may not be precisely on 9 and 12 but they are damn close, lol. The Dev's obviously have the gadgetry to set a precise power, so maybe that is the reason for the slight fluctuation in my figures and why they have stated in the release notes.


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Posted 14 June 2015 - 11:18 PM

Hmmm...someone should manufacture a "Swing Gauge Overlay Sticker - with Ezypeel TM" with erasable surface for distance marking.



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 11:27 PM

Hmmm...someone should manufacture a "Swing Gauge Overlay Sticker - with Ezypeel TM" with erasable surface for distance marking.

 

Knock yourself out Teddy_Bald. Go for it.

 

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:42 AM

Appreciate the post RustyMike.

 

I'm testing a BETA build and have just posted what I experienced whilst putting on a flat green with a stimpmeter setting of 10. I have no idea what stimpmeter setting the Dev's used when arriving at their distances. I'll go and do a bit more testing.

 

Stimp Meter = 9

9 o'clock = 29 ft

12 o'clock = 77 ft

 

Stimp Meter = 10

9 o'clock hit = 32 ft

12 o'clock hit = 90 ft

 

Stimp Meter = 11

9 o'clock hit = 36 ft

12 o'clock hit = 32 yds

 

Like I say, these are my findings. My clicks may not be precisely on 9 and 12 but they are damn close, lol. The Dev's obviously have the gadgetry to set a precise power, so maybe that is the reason for the slight fluctuation in my figures and why they have stated in the release notes.

At least it gives you a starting point or benchmark to work from. :)

I need to find more time to practice and play.  :(



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 03:27 PM

I wish we could set 2 different Motion Swing sensitivity settings in the Game settings.

 

I'd like a MUCH slower swing meter movement for my putts than I do for the full swings personally.


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Posted 16 June 2015 - 05:22 PM

Why does the meter go up to 60ft for putts within 6ft? I find that awkward, never going past 10% power...

 

Also, why do you drag the meter back to say 40ft but then it doesn't lock till you're back on 30ft or something? Quite annoying I find.



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:30 PM

Why does the meter go up to 60ft for putts within 6ft? I find that awkward, never going past 10% power...

 

Also, why do you drag the meter back to say 40ft but then it doesn't lock till you're back on 30ft or something? Quite annoying I find.

 

I guess because it is early access and was something that was added at short notice as during testing it was felt the meter was moving too fast for short putts. You avoid further delay, the quick fix as added for the meter to be slowed down when you were within 6ft of the hole. I'm sure now the release is out in the wild and the port over to U5 is completed, they can now get to work on such finer details like the meter, motion swing and animation.

 

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:33 PM

///I'm sure now the release is out in the wild and the port over to U5 is completed, they can now get to work on such finer details like the meter, motion swing and animation.

 

Hear Hear!

 

I hope a huge ton of attention will now swing towards the Avatar/Swing integration, especially since that seems like it will be yet another round of "re-learning" some things.  I'm eager for that aspect of the game (swing) to get closer to the final stage it will likely exist in.



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:57 PM

I appreciate the tips regarding what a 9 o'clock putt etc will do, but having the option of a gauge sure would be nice.  Surely newbies shouldn't have to shoot quad bogey or worse on the first few holes just getting a feel for it.



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 11:43 PM

I have been playing 3 click golf games for 16 years now and never have I seen it this difficult to hit the 6:00/ Snap line on putts inside 20 feet, I feel the meter needs to either be slowed down like it has been in for 6 footers. Or have a separate/ second meter like Links and TW did for these 30 to 10 foot putts, as is now anything inside 30 feet requires a machine gun click especially the 10 to 8 footers, IMHO. 


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:23 AM

Why have the 6 ft meter for hor and ver swings. It just messes me up.



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:42 AM

Why does the meter go up to 60ft for putts within 6ft? I find that awkward, never going past 10% power...

 

Also, why do you drag the meter back to say 40ft but then it doesn't lock till you're back on 30ft or something? Quite annoying I find.

Well if your like me and the top of the meter was 6 feet for 6 feet putts and 90 feet for 7 foot putts, I easily could just click without noticing and it would mess up an easy putt.  At least with the meter being the same power for both it gives you a chance not to make a mistake.






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