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[theclubpro]

I would like to see the slow meter goto about 15-20 ft.ive had 6 ft putts that swing fast and some go slow.ive had lots of downhill putts to were u have to take so much power off u have to hit in the 6-10 ft range for a 20 ft putt and find its kinda hard to click that fast .as I had Putts go past the hole 6-10 ft.other than this I like the way the putting is.now I got to make a guess on how hard to hit it.i also take a practice shot on my 6 ft putts now just to see what kinda meter speed I get.i click and just let the meter run w/o clicking again and just restart.

[Harald]

I would like to see the slow meter goto about 15-20 ft.ive had 6 ft putts that swing fast and some go slow.ive had lots of downhill putts to were u have to take so much power off u have to hit in the 6-10 ft range for a 20 ft putt and find its kinda hard to click that fast .as I had Putts go past the hole 6-10 ft.other than this I like the way the putting is.now I got to make a guess on how hard to hit it.i also take a practice shot on my 6 ft putts now just to see what kinda meter speed I get.i click and just let the meter run w/o clicking again and just restart.

Totally agree with you! The Speed is horrible fast to stop it for the Short Puts if they are on the "over 6 feet Meter"

[Buck]

Totally agree with you! The Speed is horrible fast to stop it for the Short Puts if they are on the "over 6 feet Meter"

 

Also totally agree.

 

To me the worst part of the otherwise wonderful updated version of the game is the 0-12ft  (roughly) putting game.

 

It's simply "not fun" with the current implementation - Never something you want to be saying about portions of a game.

[marts30]

The part that isn't fun for me is taking the meter back to 10 ft but it not 'locking' there, instead it locks about 6 or 7 feet, meaning very inconsistent short putting.

 

Also not a huge fan of how tempo doesn't affect putting yet, it's even more important to have a good putting tempo - but I guess that will come in when tied to avatar.

[JoeF]

I'm having a real problem understanding these requests to slow the meter down on putts of 6 - 15 feet.  I'm a 62 year old (so my reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be) who has played motion style swings exclusively for the past 18 years.  During testing of this update I used 3-click, no aids, to test  the revised 3-click meter.  I had no issues making my clicks for putts of 7 feet even when faced with 3 inch drops to the hole.  Was I dead on the snap every time?  No, but I was always close.  But with the wider margin of error on snaps when putting, I was still able to get the distance required and be very close to the hole if not in.  Even on those putts with lots of break.

 

So, could someone please explain to me how those who have been 3-clicking as long as they have played golf games can't deal with this.  It ain't that hard.

[Buck]

I'm having a real problem understanding these requests to slow the meter down on putts of 6 - 15 feet. 

 

Can't speak to clickers, but on MotionSwing the putting really needs a separate sensitivity setting

 

(one for swings, one for putting strokes)

 

Perhaps a different scale for anything up to about a 15 foot putt also.  

 

Playing last night and it was ridiculously hard to get the right power for 0-8 foot type putts and the meter "dot" moves like a centimeter before it's "too much" -  (which happens about instantly on my MS sensitivity setting).

 

The putting meter situation (for sub 20ft putting) is creating this silly "no feel", "game within a game" rapid fire type situation.  It's making me basically hate that aspect of PG right now.

[theclubpro]

IMO,I shouldn't have to do a rapid fire double click for a 7ft.downhill putt.when I play in real life, closer to the hole, the easyer I swing.it should be more about ur aim instead of power for the short 1s..the longer putts of 20+ yea make it a guessing game on how much u should hit it.i say make the slower meter a little longer or find a happy middle of the 2 speeds.

[Buck]

i say make the slower meter

 

I'm fine with how little the meter moves for short putts - if the sensitivity can be customized...

[robbiet71]

I use Motion Swing and play with no aids. Putts work fine for me personally. I hole 95% of putts under 6 ft (exception being the holes that are on unfairly severe slopes - I think that needs looking at - only a small number though) and putts over 6ft I would say I hole 70% under 10ft and beyond that it is obviously tougher. I'm averaging 29 putts per round and usually my Putts per GIR is around 1.80.

Short putts with MS are easier now I think because I don't seem to get those uphill ones where even when you went past the flag marker (on the old system) it stopped short. It feels much better to me. Perhaps it is to do with mouse sensitivity? I have a gaming mouse and use a specific dpi when I play PG.

[Fairwayman]

;)I bow in shame to you Robbie...those sidehill ones are killer

[Buck]

Perhaps it is to do with mouse sensitivity? 

 

Bingo!  

Additionally, DPI scaling due to using high resolution monitors (4k/5k) impacts all of this as well.

 

Solution?  -- Separate meter sensitivity for swings vs putts

[Dazmaniac]

In all honesty for putts of say 7-10 feet, it is hardly rapid fire clicking.

Yes you have to click reasonably quickly but it's not as if you're clicking at the speed you do when double clicking a desktop shortcut to open it.

Fair duo's if the Devs heed your requests and slow it down, but then you'll get folks asking for it to be made quicker as it's too slow.

[JoeF]

I'm fine with how little the meter moves for short putts - if the sensitivity can be customized...

 

 

Can't speak to clickers, but on MotionSwing the putting really needs a separate sensitivity setting

 

(one for swings, one for putting strokes)

 

Perhaps a different scale for anything up to about a 15 foot putt also.  

 

Playing last night and it was ridiculously hard to get the right power for 0-8 foot type putts and the meter "dot" moves like a centimeter before it's "too much" -  (which happens about instantly on my MS sensitivity setting).

 

The putting meter situation (for sub 20ft putting) is creating this silly "no feel", "game within a game" rapid fire type situation.  It's making me basically hate that aspect of PG right now.

 

That might not be a bad idea.  I don't have a problem with putting as it stands, however, I can see that if one uses a high sensitivity setting (low number in settings) that the speed of the meter movement may be too quick for short putts.  I use a setting of 1.2 and that seems to work well for me.  I have to concentrate on my swing speed to keep control of my backswing on short putts but I find it gives me the feel of just lightly hitting the ball.  

[Buck]

That might not be a bad idea.  I don't have a problem with putting as it stands, however, I can see that if one uses a high sensitivity setting (low number in settings) that the speed of the meter movement may be too quick for short putts.  

 

Also - It just sort of "feels" like a putting stroke is so very very different than a full golf swing, that really it should have it's own implementation beyond the "exact same meter as full swings" -- Which I think was the genesis for the thread requesting a straight "bar style" meter for putting (as one example option)

 

One can understand the "clock style 6pm - Noon" type meter for full swings as that mimics the golf swing.  But for putts it makes no sense at all really.

[Keith]

In all honesty for putts of say 7-10 feet, it is hardly rapid fire clicking.

Yes you have to click reasonably quickly but it's not as if you're clicking at the speed you do when double clicking a desktop shortcut to open it.

Fair duo's if the Devs heed your requests and slow it down, but then you'll get folks asking for it to be made quicker as it's too slow.

On 7-11 ft. downhillers it requires 2 successive very fast clicks, and I only play on standard stimp speeds.  I am adjusting to it the more I play, but it still could use some refinement IMO. 

[Sliceapottomus]

Ive been clicking as long as i have been playing comp golf. I understand the devs adding the slow meter to help with short puts. prob a quick fix.... Moving forward the putt meter we have now will not be long enough to make long up hill puts. ther is an obvious way to make every one happy more meters all the same speed....other games have had this and so should this one. 10, 30, 80, 150. sounds easy to me....

[Buck]

Ive been clicking as long as i have been playing comp golf. I understand the devs adding the slow meter to help with short puts. prob a quick fix.... Moving forward the putt meter we have now will not be long enough to make long up hill puts. ther is an obvious way to make every one happy more meters all the same speed....other games have had this and so should this one. 10, 30, 80, 150. sounds easy to me....

 

Could also have the power scale simply not be linear, which would be a reasonable analogue of a normal putting stroke

[clubcaptain]

If the data is collected, I'd find it interesting to see what percentage of  putts up to 6 feet are successful.

[DennisHarris]

I am all for the full swing putting meter.  The problem I see is the 6ft. and less meter.   The slower meter still leaves a very touchy power for short putts.   Wrong power and the read we make is off so putts do not go anywhere near what we expect.  I am more capable of making a 25 foot bending putt with our new putting than I am anything inside 10 ft.  IMO the short putting is way off.  Maybe a less sensitive power meter for 6ft putts could be implemented.  Keep the speed of the swing the same.  

[JoeF]

Could also have the power scale simply not be linear, which would be a reasonable analogue of a normal putting stroke

 

The power scale in the current meter is not linear.  It leans more to being exponential, particularity once you go past 12:00.