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[SDL]

I've heard about Shackelford's book, but never read it. I don't know how much the book acknowledges Seth Raynor's contribution to the routing - if any - including the placement of the iconic 16th hole. Based on comments from Shackelford himself on one of the golf course architecture websites, he seems to think that MacKenzie's ego may have prompted him to refuse to use any parts of Raynor's original plan, but others think that MacKenzie must have taken elements from the Raynor routing given some early photos and the fact that Marion Hollins worked with Raynor on the early plans for the course and then worked with MacKenzie after she recommended that MacKenzie be hired after Raynor's death. Clearly, Raynor had nothing to do with actually constructing the course since it was built after his death, and Robert Hunter worked with MacKenzie on the construction. From what I've read, it sounds like Hollins, who was an accomplished women golfer, had a lot to do with making the 16th a long par 3 rather than a par 4 - and that MacKenzie wasn't easily convinced. 

 

At any rate, these behind-the-scenes looks at CP make the course even more interesting, and the Shackelford book sounds like a great idea for a Christmas present.

[garynorman]

If you guys could pretend that you don't know anything about the course that would be great (I might get away then with any inaccuracies!)

 

In the meantime I'm having fun (sarcasm) with the dunes on this course...  Getting them to look anything close is going to be a real challenge I think.  There may well have to be some serious out of the box thinking when it comes to planting!!

 

Here's where I'm at currently.  I am getting the bush look by scaling up exisitng bushes and burying them into the dunes to get the scattered effect.

 

[Buck]

Nice work Gary!

 

That's some great looking bush!

[garynorman]

This is actual hole for comparison...

 

[Buck]

Super nice when comparing to actual pic..

 

I do still hope bunkers can one day have even better/more realistic edges to them (as in the real photo).

Tough, I know - One can dream though.  

[Drgnslyr221]

Looks great, Gary! It's always a pleasure playing your tracks.

[SDL]

Great work, Gary!  I think your dune looks even better than the photo.

 

And I promise to not talk any more about the ancient history of CP. However, I had been planning to mention the story, long shaded by mystery, of an early routing plan of CP that was reported to have included the initials G.N. at the bottom. My theory is that some sort of time warp created the G.N. initials as a sign of a future when a video course creator would eventually bring CP to the masses. But that's just a story.......

 

I'm confident that your version of CP is going to be great!

[garynorman]

Here's the par 3, 7th:

 

[highfade]

I was waiting for the PG pic?  

 

Brilliant, can't wait!

[johnmeyer]

Looks stunning, and agree with highfade, that looks just like a photo

[Dazmaniac]

I was waiting for the PG pic?

Brilliant, can't wait!

Epic visuals. In the right hands this CF and Unity combo is a bit good.

[garynorman]

Getting close now to a beta of this...

 

The greens are brutal at times!!

 

[Mike Jones]

There hasn't been a good recreation of Cypress Point in golf games for almost 2 decades. This is looking amazing!

[KenR]

Wow... a definite need to be under the hole here or

[Curious George]

I want to play this right now!  Looking mighty sweet.

[Keith]

Absolute artistry.  Incredible work.

[yesrushdt]

There hasn't been a good recreation of Cypress Point in golf games for almost 2 decades. This is looking amazing!

 

Well, I thought Hiker Bob's rendition of Cypress Point for Tiger Woods was very good.  I'll bet Gary's will be much more accurate though.

[M Rose]

I remember Silvernail was doing one but I don't think it ever got finished. Same with the Links version; for whatever reason that never came out either. In APCD it might have been too much....  it amazes me anybody ever finished anything in APCD now that i've been using Course Forge for a year.

 

Gary's version is gonna be great....  I only hope I can do Pebble enough justice.

[garynorman]

Just lost 90% of my trees literally on the verge of releasing a beta version, so back to the drawing board...

I'm sure you'll do Pebble justice, Matthew.

[yesrushdt]

Oh geez Gary, I'm so very sorry to hear that.  Did you lose their exact placement location on the course as well or just the actual SpeedTree asset you modified?  I'm not too familiar with Course Forge.  Whatever the case, I hope that you'll be able to recover the trees you lost through some sort of Windows or backup restore option (instead of having to remodify the cypress trees again).