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[Maineah]

Just saw the new video for importing from bing maps to CF-- I must say this is going to be so awesome!

its in the video section of the website-- check it out!!

[highfade]

I have to agree, looks super simple and cool!!

[FixAmer1st]

I'll definitely take a look.  I opened Bing Maps last night and after a bit of browsing around finally found the course I have been trying to design ever since the 2001 apcd came out. Never could learn it so I never completed it.

 

One thing about Bing. I centered the course in the main window and one click was way to close and one more click up was way to large. I need about a half click movement.

 

Jerry

[Acrilix]

... and I have to agree to agree!

[garynorman]

Amazing!!  Please hurry up and release this stuff!!!!

[FixAmer1st]

Just in case I hadn't found the correct Bing site with my web search can anybody give me the Bing Maps web site address please? I found so many links in the search.

Jerry

[Jimbo63]

Jerry

It may be that you will be able to adjust the download size by reducing the size of the window that you open in Bing to just cover the area of the course that you require. I know that is one of the ways the USGS site works for downloads, it can give you the area that your browser window covers. This way of downloading and using the info is IMO even easier than the way we use height info and course pics when designing courses for TW2008. The whole design package looks very, very promising.

[Kablammo11]

@ Jerry. Ther ya go... what other bing is there? http://www.bing.com/maps/

@PP: Nice Video. You had to go and torture me with it, didn't you? Now I want it, I don't have it, I'm miserable. You happy now?

[Davefevs]

Looks great.....although I wish they'd previewed an actual course!

[FixAmer1st]

Jerry

It may be that you will be able to adjust the download size by reducing the size of the window that you open in Bing to just cover the area of the course that you require. I know that is one of the ways the USGS site works for downloads, it can give you the area that your browser window covers. This way of downloading and using the info is IMO even easier than the way we use height info and course pics when designing courses for TW2008. The whole design package looks very, very promising.

 

Might be but the biggest problem is that it is very rectangular with the height about almost the size if the width.  If I could rotate the view to east/west rather than the north/south the Bing site displays it would fit into the Bing window. Anyway to do this?

 

Also, with the size of the Bing Window, if I change to Bird's Eye View from Aerial View the course then fits easily. The Opening Bing Aerial View will not. What's the difference between Bird's Eye and Aerial? I am not sure but Bird's Eye looks like a slightly slanted view to me.

 

Here's my course.  http://binged.it/14hOMrA

 

Anybody familiar with it?

 

Jerry

[Jimbo63]

Jerry

If you hover your mouse over the right of the browser window until you see a double arrow, you can move the browser window to the left until you get the course and surrounds squarer. I am hoping that this will be the download area . . . fingers crossed.

[Dazmaniac]

For the love of all that's holy.

 

That Course Converting Tool looks f'kin awesome. The ease in which a snapshot of the Grand Canyon was effectively imported in to Unity was too good to be true. I'm sure the Course Forge will see plenty of action once both it and the Course Conversion Tool are made available to the ever eager community.

 

My home course - http://binged.it/126XN4S - can see it best with BING Maps in fullscreen mode

 

Great work AJ (and PP).

 

[keriboi]

This is my course where I am a greenkeeper. Its 27 Holes so hopefully PPG can do 27 hole courses

http://binged.it/10TpFXK

[axe360]

Ok so you have a way to import a dem, now what will be the method for drawing out each hole?  We have a Terrain Assist Program at Course Source that allows us to draw/trace out each hole, every green, bunker, fairway. and import that onto our Plot.. Interested in knowing how PP will do this?

 

Peace

[Dazmaniac]

Ok so you have a way to import a dem, now what will be the method for drawing out each hole?  We have a Terrain Assist Program at Course Source that allows us to draw/trace out each hole, every green, bunker, fairway. and import that onto our Plot.. Interested in knowing how PP will do this?

 

Peace

 

Axe,

 

Very much the same way as you describe. You will have the heightmap (if terrain imported using the Course Converter) then using the Course Forge tools you will draw out your holes placing tees, greens, fairway, bunkers etc.

 

If you have watched the 15 minute clip MJ uploaded where he designs a par 3, this will give you some idea how Course Forge will work. This is as much as we have seen because Course Forge isn't out yet.

 

Also, if you peruse some of the gallery images on this site, you will see that some pics of the Course Forge show holes being overlaid over an image of the actual course/holes (see below)

 

[axe360]

Thank You Daz...Yes I did watch the video and thanks for that pic, I had'nt caught that..

Exciting stuff..

[John Griffin]

Looks great.....although I wish they'd previewed an actual course!

 

Yeah, but they were going for maximum effect by showing the extreme elevation changes in the Grand Canyon.

 

Although  - did you catch the content in the folders as Andrew was browsing through?  Cypress Point! Absolutely the first course I would go play with if I had a new toy like this!!

[John Griffin]

I did find this on a Bing Maps blog regarding Bing data resolution available:

 

Currently elevation information is available with the following resolutions: Global Coverage (including poles): 900m resolution (Globe), Global Coverage (56⁰S to 60⁰N):90m resolution (SRTM).US coverage: 10m resolution (NED).

 

http://www.bing.com/...ations-api.aspx

 

Looks like USA has 10m resolution, a good portion of the rest of the world has only 90m coverage.  10m will get you in the ballpark for major elevations across a plot the size of a golf course, but 90m isn't going to show much detail at all.  I hope Bing works to improve resolution available for both USA and global coverage.

 

This is why I'm hoping the Converter tool can also import elevation data output from the USGS which is available in at least 3m resolution for USA.  3m data will show a lot more feature detail than 10m.  Of course with that approach you'll have to manually line up a aerial image texture with the elevation data, so it's a bit of a tradeoff - ease of use vs. data resolution.

[Acrilix]

90m coverage? Oh well.... it was a nice dream while it lasted!

[Jimbo63]

90m is the resolution I have used to produce UK courses for TW2008. It is OK for the general layout, but it always leaves you wondering about the smaller height adjustments that it obviously cannot show. Without you going to visit the course or being able to get further info from other sources, rest of the world courses will always be something of an artistic interpretation IMO.