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[Kablammo11]

In due time, maybe… but you seem do be doing just fine by yourself, judging from this, and yours is the 1st Decal on record in the history of PP - nobody can take that away from you. Highfade, Prime Decalisator!

(This is a nice little thread, but actually by now it's a few parsecs off topic…)

[Davefevs]

Have you allowed Tara to chip on the greens? :-)

[Kablammo11]

Sure. What Tara wants, Tara gets. Tara can do no wrong, Dave. Not Tara… not ever...

 

But minor and menial  jobs, like creating a series of a few hundred divots in preparation of decals, are rarely worth Tara's time, because the poor dear is always so very busy, to the point of exhaustion, with being generally wonderful… Ah…

So it's Tara's Mexican assistant, Frida K., who would go out and plow the tees and greens with her irons...

 

[IanD]

Decals are indeed something of a challenge, and one I'm beginning to wonder whether worth it. I still believe the concept of having a mesh inside the parent mesh, would allow for the things such as divots, worn areas of grass etc. I've imported the Decal System and used their examples in placement etc, but I've yet to master anything of my own...

 

Nice work on those decals though... well done on your progress!

[Kablammo11]

I agree, IanD - I somehow had assumed Decals were part of Unity and to my horror I just learned I need to import a new system, with shaders and materials and whatnots… That friggin Decal System just overwrote my Skybox/panorma at import! 

 

Let's just say that Decals are nice to have but definitely not a top priority for me right now. It' a Unitiy thing anyway… I'm done with everything CF for the time being - 80+% of my project time is used up with Unity this and Unity that...

I even prepped af few divots on a transparent Photoshop file just in case the urge gets me, but I don't think it will soon.

 

 

The lower 2 rows are the same as the upper 2, but mirrored horizontally. In theory, you can crop out the one you need in the Decal system from such a file. Meh… too complicated altogether...

Anybody wants the orginal PSD document? Message me. Or mAssage me. Or both.

[highfade]

Decals are indeed something of a challenge, and one I'm beginning to wonder whether worth it. I still believe the concept of having a mesh inside the parent mesh, would allow for the things such as divots, worn areas of grass etc. I've imported the Decal System and used their examples in placement etc, but I've yet to master anything of my own...

 

Nice work on those decals though... well done on your progress!

 

Ian

 

The problem with child meshes is that we work with a blended texture, so you have to add your dry patch or divots to one of the textures and it's tough to get a pleasing result. The other problem is you can't move or rotate the texture to fit exactly inside a tee box for example.

[highfade]

Are you guys also using the Eidelweiss Decal system? Looks good K11 would like to have to original PSD

[Kablammo11]

Yep - but there's another free one out there… 

Here's the divot file, I hope this works, it's my first try with copy.com…. 

 

https://copy.com/DArnlEDDXALT

 

I can't promise you can use it right away, though - there's some psd alpha channel business to add… Also, you will need to adjust the colors to your texture

 

If this does work, I will soon put up a folder with all my textures and normal maps and so on for everybody to have them. Takes a couple hours to gather the stuff from everywhere and name it properly, though...

[highfade]

Thanks Chris, much appreciated, looks great

[shimonko]

Looks good highfade. Is the shadow in the divots part of the texture? Like did you have to rotate the divot to suit your light source or the shadows are generated from the light source?

[highfade]

Looks good highfade. Is the shadow in the divots part of the texture? Like did you have to rotate the divot to suit your light source or the shadows are generated from the light source?

 

No, the shadow is part of the texture. It's real easy to rotate, scale, move etc.

[shimonko]

So Edelweiss Decal System - I see there's a free version of a paid version in the Asset store - is that what you used? I might have a play.

[highfade]

So Edelweiss Decal System - I see there's a free version of a paid version in the Asset store - is that what you used? I might have a play.

Yip

[shimonko]

So I made a divot via the Edelweiss thingy - first removed the shadows from the divot photo I found and let Unity put them in so the shadowing will obey the time of day. I think there's promise but this is what I'm not sure of with CourseForge - when a course is exported, does it only export the terrain/meshes/textures or also other assets as such as the Edelweiss scripts and shaders?

 

Or will CF have to implement their own decal system? I've really only played Links for any length of time, but has any other game scattered the course with a random set of divots at the start of play, affecting lies if you land in one?

 

I've put the divot texture and its bump map for download below if anyone wants to play.

 

 

 

 

 

Divot texture file  

 

Divot bump map

[Kablammo11]

Nice job, shimonko!

Re. your question - I'm pretty sure CF exports all the Unity assets also, so that your divot might very well be conserved for posterity. The way I understand it (very superficially) is that at export all the Unity assets and stuff are getting cooked/baked/compacted into one new pile of data, so that all your scripts and thingamajics will make it across… somehow...

 

Google wont let me see your bump map (?) so I'm asking here: Your divot seems to be lowered horizontally and flatly, without any structure or height difference visible on the (lowered) inside. Call me Picky (that's in fact my 4th middle name - and the least bad of all 12 of them), but the center of the divot should be a bit lower than the front or the back of it.

Still… good stuff!

[IanD]

Excellent shimonko.... thanks for sharing too. It will help me a little in returning to try it again.

[shimonko]

Good point K11, I'll modify the bump. I've tried the link, strangely Google doesn't preview it unless logged into a google account but download seemed to work ok.

[shimonko]

Not having much luck - I think I have still too much shadow in the texture, but it's a little more scalloped:

New scalloped bump map

[Kablammo11]

It's the same for every little bit of progress… trial and error, adjust and re-adjust...

Oh, Frida K told me to say hi to you...

[highfade]

Looks like some real thick stuff.  Fore left!!