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[Pappy]

How close do you think PG is to going "big time" public? Imo not yet. Need lefties and lady players. Not much more I would say. The physics are pretty much spot on! What would be the best way to advertise PG? Right now it's word of mouth. Anyway getting close!

[Acrilix]

The game is on Steam. That's pretty public for a PC game!

[DoGgs]

A career mode is a must imo, its safe to say that 99% of us here are not just casual players, we create, test, play on tour etc.  If and when this hits console then potential buyers are going to be looking for some kind of single player progression type career, and to hit console without it would be a huge mistake.

[JCat04]

DoGgz, on 20 Dec 2016 - 2:13 PM, said:

A career mode is a must imo, its safe to say that 99% of us here are not just casual players, we create, test, play on tour etc.  If and when this hits console then potential buyers are going to be looking for some kind of single player progression type career, and to hit console without it would be a huge mistake.

 

I totally agree with DoGgz... career mode is a must for a chance at success on the consoles.  It would give JNPG a leg up on TGC to have a viable career mode at this point.   Yes, TGC currently has what's called a career mode, but most will admit it lacks any real substance.  TGC 2 will no doubt have a more full featured, deeper career mode, so if PP can beat HBS to the punch and get JNPG at least on the XBox One market before TGC 2, with as dynamic a career mode as I suspect they've got in mind, it will be a huge plus for them.

 

Beyond career mode though, Pappy has named some other elements the console version has to have to succeed.  We not only need female and lefty golfer animations, we need animations that are both more fluidly animated and presented in higher detail.  It's going to take DirectX 11, at a minimum, to pull this off to the degree needed on an XBox One, IMO.  I think it would also help if there was some degree of customization of the golfers physical appearance in JNPG... just something to allow each player an opportunity to put a little personal touch into their avatar.   

 

Technically, JNPG has gone public over one and a half years ago with the Steam Early Access release.  I would see the Windows 10/XBox One release on Microsoft Live and XBox Live as a new, public release... and really, so would most of that market.  In my eyes, the Windows 10 version of JNPG would be a "new" game.  I imagine I could find some who would disagree with me on that though 

[Wirenut48]

I would imagine this Win 10 featured major paid update will contain all the bells and whistles. 3D grass, career, mocap, and store items. Then hopefully focus will go to consoles and VR.

[Tee Bird]

We definitely need a career mode.  I have been wanting one for a long time.  I hope windows live servers have improved.  They were horrid when I used to play F1 2011. 

[JoeBradley]

Been away a couple of days. Seriously, is JNPG going off Steam and on to GFWL or whatever it is now? Bugger...

[jeffield]

I don't really see it happening that quickly ( beating tgc2 ) to the release/punch. Look how long this update took. I love the gameplay like all of you. It's very good but tgc2 is going to have selectable difficulties (one of which is supposed to be very challenging sort of like the hardest drive setting cone they currently have). Without the uplifting trick. they are going to have motion captured completely customizable golfers, societies / country clubs with upgradable clubhouses, ghost rounds and a completely included at no extra cost course creator. And all of this by April '17. How is jnpg going to get a competitive game to console by that date? I predict gc2 will hit the ground running on both major consoles and pc in april and will be very strong thru next winter and into the following year as well. I've said it before jnpg is the best playing golf game I've ever played but they cannot afford to wait and watch tgc up their gameplay alongside all that they offer. They we pull from the jnpg base by doing so. I know jnpg is not pp's immediate concern but if they want to succeed they need to be on both consoles by april-June of next year.

[Buck]

jeffield, on 20 Dec 2016 - 9:35 PM, said:

...but tgc2 is going to have selectable difficulties (one of which is supposed to be very challenging sort of like the hardest drive setting cone they currently have). Without the uplifting trick. they are going to have motion captured completely customizable golfers, societies / country clubs with upgradable clubhouses, ghost rounds and a completely included at no extra cost course creator. And all of this by April '17.

 

How is jnpg going to get a competitive game to console by that date?

 

 

They really don't need to worry about TGC2.

These games are targeting completely different types of golfers and gamers really.

 

And also, before anyone gets too excited about the "all new super challenging swing, finally, yay!" in TGC2...

Let's actually see it and have someone get some hands on it..

 

It's all vaporware on Anthony's server and a bunch of smoke on the forum at the moment.

[jeffield]

Well I will agree with you on the believe it when i see it as to tgc's proposed difficulty selectables. There are a lot of complainers over there who love the ease of the swing right now. So we'll see what happens. Just saying if it happens the way they claim it will which is reducing the yardage to about 260 for the easy swing as it is now and then offering two other selectable distance/vs challenge swing types it could turn out pretty interesting for a ps4 game. I as well as others have a lot of golf friends on ps4. Well see next year. I'm not sure I agree that pp and tgc are targeting different types of golfers. For now. .. yes I agree. After tgc2 adds selectable difficulties I'm not so sure. Tgc is pretty good on hardest drive setting. Not as real as jnpg by any sense but still good enough to entertain this SIM type golferm

[Buck]

jeffield, on 20 Dec 2016 - 10:03 PM, said:

There are a lot of complainers over there who love the ease of the swing right now.

To be fair, it only feels like about 4-5 rotten eggs in the pack.
If they'd moderate more seriously (and fairly) and remove the bad eggs, the ghost town of negativity that has become their forum might recover at some point.

Losing Lorin as a moderator (long ago now) was a really big blow it has turned out.
I certainly disagreed with him on many things, but he was an absolute hammer as a moderator and the place was better for it.

[DivotMaker]

Buck, on 20 Dec 2016 - 11:21 PM, said:

To be fair, it only feels like about 4-5 rotten eggs in the pack.
If they'd moderate more seriously (and fairly) and remove the bad eggs, the ghost town of negativity that has become their forum might recover at some point.

Losing Lorin as a moderator (long ago now) was a really big blow it has turned out.
I certainly disagreed with him on many things, but he was an absolute hammer as a moderator and the place was better for it.

TBH, it is not Keith's fault. He is doing what he can, but he is being told to let certain users post whatever they wish with no consequences. No wonder that forum has become a ghost town recently.

 

Anyhoo...lets try to get back on topic and leave that "other" forum out of our discussions.

[zmax - sim]

JoeBradley, on 20 Dec 2016 - 9:22 PM, said:

Been away a couple of days. Seriously, is JNPG going off Steam and on to GFWL or whatever it is now? Bugger...

 

I suspect the Steam version will continue to be usable.  But most will probably move to the Windows 10 DX11 3D grass version.  which could make it difficulty to find a game in the current lobby....

[Buck]

DivotMaker, on 20 Dec 2016 - 11:48 PM, said:

...it is not Keith's fault...he is being told to let certain users post whatever they wish with no consequences.

Very true

DivotMaker, on 20 Dec 2016 - 11:48 PM, said:

lets try to get back on topic and leave that "other" forum out of our discussions.

Agreed!

[LeazesNDR]

JoeBradley, on 20 Dec 2016 - 9:22 PM, said:

Been away a couple of days. Seriously, is JNPG going off Steam and on to GFWL or whatever it is now? Bugger...

zmax - sim, on 20 Dec 2016 - 11:50 PM, said:

I suspect the Steam version will continue to be usable. But most will probably move to the Windows 10 DX11 3D grass version. which could make it difficulty to find a game in the current lobby....

GFWL!!! Yer jokin' aren't yer...
GFWL is utter crap.

http://www.howtogeek...-on-windows-10/

*Sighs*

[zmax - sim]

Maybe it's something else they're planning?  Can't see them using something that's broke.

[J.H.Buchanan]

Its all great one day were're going to have a PG2 

[JCat04]

I wonder if this isn't more like what PP has in mind:

 

http://www.xbox.com/...ows?xr=shellnav

[MERACE]

JCat04, on 21 Dec 2016 - 01:30 AM, said:

I wonder if this isn't more like what PP has in mind:

 

http://www.xbox.com/...ows?xr=shellnav

Maybe so.  If I'm understanding that correctly it's not the same thing as "cross-platform" multiplayer gaming.

 

-MERACE

[JCat04]

MERACE, on 21 Dec 2016 - 01:50 AM, said:

Maybe so.  If I'm understanding that correctly it's not the same thing as "cross-platform" multiplayer gaming.

 

-MERACE

 

It's not completely clear to me either.  I guess I can see how an XBox One player could play against someone on a Windows 10 PC, whose PC was in essence either emulating or streaming an XBox One?  I'd hate to see a powerful Windows 10 PC be capped by the capabilities of the XBox One... at least the current XBox One.  I'm just guessing right now though; I'll sit back and wait on the facts to come in.