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#1 gravedodger

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Posted 09 July 2017 - 08:57 AM

Just thinking about swing modes and why I play 3C in JNPG, in short I think it's the great leveller of cyber golf swings.

1. It's the same for everyone.
2. No messing around with mouse DPI.
3. Edging 'perks' not applicable.
4. Player reaction time can vastly effect your performance, if you're not on the ball it's 'agricultural tour golf'.
5. PP version of 3C with it's built in anti-cheat is the best example devised IMHO.
6. It's got history ... nostalgic point just because.

BTW, I do play RTS-M from time to time but 3C rules supreme in JNPG ;)
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Posted 09 July 2017 - 12:36 PM

I suspect number 4 is the reason a vast amount of people don't play click, I'm a die hard clicker


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 12:49 PM

Snap...and point 4 is exactly right...some days you're on it,others you can sense a brain/finger delay and off you go into the rough and bunkers, lol.

 

Points 1,2,3,5 & 6 are spot on too :)

 

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Posted 09 July 2017 - 01:17 PM

Just thinking about swing modes and why I play 3C in JNPG, in short I think it's the great leveller of cyber golf swings.

1. It's the same for everyone. - unlike golf or RTS where everyone's swing is unique to the individual.

2. No messing around with mouse DPI. - ​because every swing's speed and path are exactly the same in 3C, unlike golf or RTS-M.

3. Edging 'perks' not applicable. - since the swing path is already perfectly straight in 3C unlike RTS.  Due to tempo requirement in RTS-M "edging perks" are minor at best.

4. Player reaction time can vastly effect your performance, if you're not on the ball it's 'agricultural tour golf'.  Just like RTS.

5. PP version of 3C with it's built in anti-cheat is the best example devised IMHO. - RTS-M tempo does the same.
6. It's got history ... nostalgic point just because. - just because some can't handle actually learning to make a swing

BTW, I do play RTS-M from time to time but 3C rules supreme in JNPG ;)

BTW, I do play 3C from time to time but RTS-M rules supreme in JNPG   ;) 

 

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Posted 09 July 2017 - 01:33 PM

 

Just thinking about swing modes and why I play 3C in JNPG, in short I think it's the great leveller of cyber golf swings.

1. It's the same for everyone. - unlike golf or RTS where everyone's swing is unique to the individual.

2. No messing around with mouse DPI. - ​because every swing's speed and path are exactly the same in 3C, unlike golf or RTS-M.

3. Edging 'perks' not applicable. - since the swing path is already perfectly straight in 3C unlike RTS.  Due to tempo requirement in RTS-M "edging perks" are minor at best.

4. Player reaction time can vastly effect your performance, if you're not on the ball it's 'agricultural tour golf'.  Just like RTS.

5. PP version of 3C with it's built in anti-cheat is the best example devised IMHO. - RTS-M tempo does the same.
6. It's got history ... nostalgic point just because. - just because some can't handle actually learning to make a swing

BTW, I do play RTS-M from time to time but 3C rules supreme in JNPG ;)

BTW, I do play 3C from time to time but RTS-M rules supreme in JNPG   ;) 

 

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I don't think this was meant as a swing comparison thread. Why don't you go have a dump somewhwere else. Please and thanks.


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 01:50 PM

I play 3 click, because my nerves seem to get in the way watching that meter come down. Just like nerves can get in the way irl. This is probably similar to the reason 4

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Posted 09 July 2017 - 02:01 PM

I play and like 3-click swing but can think of at least 10 things to vastly improve the current one, which I rank worst of all previous golf games.

 

Although by far the most played swing method I always felt it to be neglected in it's development. We're still stuck with the same boring slow meter from the start.  Missed opportunity IMO. :mellow:


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 02:19 PM

I love the idea of RTSM but I can't use it. Needs some kind of onscreen aid.

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Posted 09 July 2017 - 02:49 PM

3C is the best and most fair swing method.

 

IMHO it should be the only swing method for PC users.


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 03:03 PM

Due to tempo requirement in RTS-M "edging perks" are minor at best.

 

 

 

with edging,  all you have to worry about is tempo.  wow! tough.



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Posted 09 July 2017 - 03:15 PM

Another my thing is bigger than yours thread



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Posted 09 July 2017 - 03:27 PM

You could put money on this thread becoming a pissing contest..i have an idea... let the mousers and 3C'rs switch to controller and controller users switch to mouse, then we can all suck together, because thats exactly what would happen.


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 04:04 PM

4. Player reaction time can vastly effect your performance, if you're not on the ball it's 'agricultural tour golf'.

Golf is not a reaction sport and there isn't one element of a real golf swing that involves reaction.  In addition displaying a meter that gives you feedback after every shot is equivalent to PGA pros having their caddies carry a Trackman on the course during a round.


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 04:40 PM

3-click in JNPG is based on a knee-jerk reaction which is silly. Links 2003 had a much better tempo/rhythm based swing.


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 04:43 PM

Alternate thread title:  

 

"XXX Swing Method is Best:  Commence Arguing With No Hope of Agreement or Resolution"


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 05:30 PM

5. PP version of 3C with it's built in anti-cheat is the best example devised IMHO.

 

As time goes by I am becoming more and more suspicious that it is this anti-cheat code that is the cause of the stuttering and/or sliding that some clickers are suffering and that it has nothing to do with background PC processes at all. The JNPG 3-click meter is the only one I've ever experienced that has such issues and that alone should be a clue to finding the real cause of these problems.


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 05:41 PM

As time goes by I am becoming more and more suspicious that it is this anti-cheat code that is the cause of the stuttering and/or sliding that some clickers are suffering and that it has nothing to do with background PC processes at all. The JNPG 3-click meter is the only one I've ever experienced that has such issues and that alone should be a clue to finding the real cause of these problems.

Totally agree. I was playing today and the stuttering was horrendous. Especially on putts. Is the anti-cheat active on every swing, including putting? The stuttering seems worse on short shots and putting. I have a more than capable PC for games but even my computer struggles at times with PG. 


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 05:44 PM

 I'm thinking this thread was started so clickers could " praise " or condemn our own swing not to compare it to others. Why some are so quick to attack something they supposedly don't care about is beyond me. Definitely helps reveal someones character.

 

Another my thing is bigger than yours thread


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 05:49 PM

No need to get into a 'mine is better than yours' tango, I started this as a 3C appreciation thread that's all, there's a RTS-M thread so this is just for a bit of balance, some of us really like 3 click and these are some of the reasons :)
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Posted 09 July 2017 - 05:50 PM

Being a 3C fan or not, one does have to admit that this point is kind of funny/ironic...

 

 

 

1. It's the same for everyone. - unlike golf or RTS where everyone's swing is unique to the individual.

 

 

 

This first point about 3C (portrayed as a positive) is that, by it's very design, it's unlike the sport it's being used to control (no individuality to the swings).

 

(Yes - I'm aware this is computer golf and "things are different when translating to digital realm", no need to go over that again.)

 

It is a little surprising that a "modern 3C" hasn't come along that would somehow have some of that individuality incorporated by now, as it definitely is a shortfall vs how the real game we are mimicking actually functions.






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