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[JCat04]

When I get back from snowbirding in Florida I think I am going to give TGC2019 another shot as I am seeing less and less players on the PG Tours and it is soon going to be down to under 50 players the way its going and to much in fighting. Right now I am enjoying playing a round a day of Links 2003 on my regular laptop and soaking up the sun. Somebody needs to start a society of just old JNPG players and see how many people we can get.

 

Interesting idea for a Society.  It would probably be worth it if at least a dozen players regularly played tournaments.  I still occasionally dabble at JNPG, but I play TGC 2019 almost daily.  I really don't think there's enough old JNPG players who would be interested in TGC 2019 to make it worthwhile though.  I'd be willing to start one if I thought there was enough interest.  I already manage one Society, which plays a daily, 18 hole tournament on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, then plays a 72 hole tournament from Thursday through Sunday.  I'm sure I could handle and play in one more, but honestly don't think there's enough to justify it.

 

TGC 2019 has made my reshift my posture on it.  When it first came out, I thought it was too easy to post scores in the upper 50s to lower 60s.  My skill at playing the game has eroded in the last year and I've also had to decommission my Elite controller in late Summer.  I'm doing good to break 70 now, but honestly, I'm enjoying the game more because of it for some reason.  A 64 feels like a very special round to me right now.  I'm almost afraid to buy an Elite 2 controller like I was planning, for fear it's going to take some of the challenge I'm finding in the game now.  

[Charles]

Somebody needs to start a society of just old JNPG players and see how many people we can get.

Well, that's a coincidence, but i just joined 'The Old Goats' Society and some other friends of mine did too. It's just up. All JNPG'ers coming together in TGC19 for some fun. Multiplay is also possible in tournament play btw. Players go to the 1st tee and play the first hole not synchronized to each other and the game unites the players on the next tee in synchronized mode. Bit different than JNPG but it works. Have fun!

[JCat04]

Well, that's a coincidence, but i just joined 'The Old Goats' Society and some other friends of mine did too. It's just up. All JNPG'ers coming together in TGC19 for some fun. Multiplay is also possible in tournament play btw. Players go to the 1st tee and play the first hole not synchronized to each other and the game unites the players on the next tee in synchronized mode. Bit different than JNPG but it works. Have fun!

 

I take it this Society is for the PC version?  I mostly play on the XBox One X because most of my friends do, but I did buy the PC version when it went on sale for $29.99.  It plays well on my PC.  I cut it back to 1080p to get 60 FPS + out of it, but I have the graphics details dialed all the way up and it looks pretty dang good.  I'll check this out Charles... thanks!

[JCat04]

Okay, I found the Society and submitted my membership request.  Once it's approved I can start play in the current event.  If I'm accepted, it will bring the membership total up to 10.

[JCat04]

Whew... not sure I should have done this or not... I just shot a 79 in the first round of the Official Amateur tournament at Royal Bentleigh, and stand at 169th in a field of 173 players    I've got the PC version adjusted for 60 FPS and my senses are attuned to the 30 FPS I get in 4K on the XBox One X version.  I bet I got at least 15 "Fast/Very Fast" swing tempos in this round because I'm used to the XBox One X versions slower, less responsive swing.  That tempo combination is a formula for disaster, as I'm sure those of you who play this game already know.  

 

This was a humbling experience, and I should have know better than to set foot on the course with Master clubs, which are considerably more punitive than Pro clubs.  I'll play round 2 of this tournament with Pro clubs, but I also need to spend some time on the range to get my tempo feel down better at 60 FPS.  I love the responsiveness of the swing animation at 60 FPS, but it does require some adjustments on the player's part to manage it properly.

[slouis]

I have had TGC for almost a month having bought it when it went on sale.  I play with Masters Clubs and think that it easier to hit it straight than using RTSM at the Pro level in JNPG which is the level I have been playing at for the last 3 years.  If you want to compare apples to apples you would have to compare RTSM at the Tour Pro level to Masters Clubs.  There is a a reason why only a handful of people play RTSM at the Tour Pro level.  After 3 years of RTSM at the Pro level my rounds are a few strokes either side of par.  I'm guessing that RTSM at the Tour Pro would add at least 15 strokes per round.

I have  friends who have had TGC a little longer than me and played more.  They are already scoring level par using Master Clubs.  Like me they use RTSM at the Pro level and their scores are similar to mine after over 2000 hours of play.

The toughest aspect of TGC for me is the short game and putting.  Again it is because the movement of the avatar does not match the movement of your mouse.

If you could combine the best parts of each game in to one you would have the ultimate cyber golf game.

[Charles]

Yip, the Avatar and mouse movement are not 1 on 1 so it's no use looking at the Avatar, which i don't. I put my cursor away from the Avatar and focus on my tempo. Only with putting do i focus on the Avatar as the take away of the putterhead is (almost) 1 on 1. That swing/stroke is totally different. Other than that, I only watch the Avatar for my pre-shot routine.

 

BTW: a little tip: while playing multiplayer you can watch the other player from different angles if need be by hitting the nr '1', '2', '3' or '4' keys. Especially on the greens fun to see (& learn) how other players line up/read breaks and how far they take the putter back.

[JCat04]

I have had TGC for almost a month having bought it when it went on sale.  I play with Masters Clubs and think that it easier to hit it straight than using RTSM at the Pro level in JNPG which is the level I have been playing at for the last 3 years.  If you want to compare apples to apples you would have to compare RTSM at the Tour Pro level to Masters Clubs.  There is a a reason why only a handful of people play RTSM at the Tour Pro level.  After 3 years of RTSM at the Pro level my rounds are a few strokes either side of par.  I'm guessing that RTSM at the Tour Pro would add at least 15 strokes per round.

I have  friends who have had TGC a little longer than me and played more.  They are already scoring level par using Master Clubs.  Like me they use RTSM at the Pro level and their scores are similar to mine after over 2000 hours of play.

The toughest aspect of TGC for me is the short game and putting.  Again it is because the movement of the avatar does not match the movement of your mouse.

If you could combine the best parts of each game in to one you would have the ultimate cyber golf game.

 

RTSM is just a notch away from sado-masochistic difficulty.  I've tried it and it is tough, but if you're looking for a challenge that is going to result in realistic scoring for skilled players, it is the cock of the walk.  I don't have a PC gaming setup that lends itself to mouse control very well, but even if I did, I'm not sure RTSM wouldn't 'break' me after a while.

 

TGC 2019 using Master clubs have suddenly become a challenge for me.  I just turned 65, and I can say that in the last year, my ability to score well with Master clubs has declined considerably.  I honestly enjoy the game more now, ironically, because I'm finding it more realistically difficult.  If I can break par on Craig LeVassuer's splendid recreation of Augusta National  with Master clubs, I feel very gratified.  But still, RTSM is in its own league in terms of intuitive based difficulty.

[JCat04]

Yip, the Avatar and mouse movement are not 1 on 1 so it's no use looking at the Avatar, which i don't. I put my cursor away from the Avatar and focus on my tempo. Only with putting do i focus on the Avatar as the take away of the putterhead is (almost) 1 on 1. That swing/stroke is totally different. Other than that, I only watch the Avatar for my pre-shot routine.

 

BTW: a little tip: while playing multiplayer you can watch the other player from different angles if need be by hitting the nr '1', '2', '3' or '4' keys. Especially on the greens fun to see (& learn) how other players line up/read breaks and how far they take the putter back.

 

Charles, I've got my graphics settings such that I can lock the Vsync at 60 FPS.  The swing feels very responsive and as close to 1 on 1 as I've ever felt in an analog input controlled golf swing. (EDIT: I see you're saying this in regard to mouse swing; I've only played TGC 2019 with stick controllers, so I really can't comment on its mouse control)  I'm having a problem adjusting because my senses are attuned to the 30 FPS swing of the XBox One X version.  I get a lot of very fast downswings because of it.

 

I also love the alternate viewing angle options you're describing for watching your fellow players.  I mix them up when I'm playing online.  I really don't like watching my fellow competitors play their shots from their swing camera view, however... I wouldn't do that in real life and it feels like I'm in the opponent's huddle when I do so.

 

I still haven't been accepted as a member at The Old Goats Society, but as soon as I am, I'll jump in there!

[Charles]

Your welcome JCat. Have fun with The Old Goats!

[3199E5kennetharry]

JCat you are still pending

[Biffa]

I have accepted all requests to join the latest being  simchars and JohnRC  Welcome to all members we now stand at 13.

[JCat04]

I have accepted all requests to join the latest being  simchars and JohnRC  Welcome to all members we now stand at 13.

 

Thanks, I checked in last night and saw that I had been accepted, but I didn't have time to get a round in... the tournament in progress was in its final hours, and I wouldn't have time to get 2 rounds in, let alone 4.  I'll jump in tonight after the NFL playoff games are over.  Looking forward to playing with you guys!

[adx321]

How are you doing JC?

[JCat04]

How are you doing JC?

 

Now there's a name I haven't heard from in a spell!  I took an early retirement offer in December of 2018, and I've been enjoying the heck out of life!  It's nice to not have to wake up to an alarm clock, 4 to 6 days a week   Although I've turned into an appliance repairman, mobile auto repair mechanic, home improvement installer, medical appointment driver, and lawn care specialists for family and elderly friends.  Even though I work gratis, it's still beats having to work the 48 to 60 hour grind.

 

How've you been getting along?  What launch sim are you using or playing now?  You're not a Trackman 4 guy are you?  

 

BTW, The Golf Club forum still sorely misses your always invigorating input.  That forum is a mere shell of what it was prior to July 2018.

[JCat04]

I have accepted all requests to join the latest being  simchars and JohnRC  Welcome to all members we now stand at 13.

 

Yeah, I'm in there now as a fully sheep-dipped member.  I just played round one of the current tournament and saw that at least 9 or 10 had already played round 1.  I played about as good as I can play here lately, and eeked out a 69, but that's good enough for second place, so I can't complain.   My putting is just horrifically bad over the last five or six months.  I'm hoping it will improve as I adjust to my brand new Elite 2 controller.

[adx321]

I'm doing well thanks.  Congrats on your retirement, that was well deserved.

 

HB was dead the moment Anthony left, he was the spirit of the game.  I used to laugh at JE when he said such silly things, but he was right all along.  The game lost it's "soul" and turned into a pos.  

 

We just built a new house and I have a trackman 4 sim in the basement.  I've actually gotten into a new hobby of restoring old arcade games.  It started with a Donkey Kong and I now have 7 other machines.  My wife just shakes her head, but knows as long as she personally is keeping Michael Kors in business, she can't say much     Glad all is well, something made me check this forum today, guessing it was a need to say hi to you

 

 

Now there's a name I haven't heard from in a spell!  I took an early retirement offer in December of 2018, and I've been enjoying the heck out of life!  It's nice to not have to wake up to an alarm clock, 4 to 6 days a week   Although I've turned into an appliance repairman, mobile auto repair mechanic, home improvement installer, medical appointment driver, and lawn care specialists for family and elderly friends.  Even though I work gratis, it's still beats having to work the 48 to 60 hour grind.

 

How've you been getting along?  What launch sim are you using or playing now?  You're not a Trackman 4 guy are you?  

 

BTW, The Golf Club forum still sorely misses your always invigorating input.  That forum is a mere shell of what it was prior to July 2018.

 

 

 

[JCat04]

1.) HB was dead the moment Anthony left, he was the spirit of the game.  I used to laugh at JE when he said such silly things, but he was right all along.  The game lost it's "soul" and turned into a pos.  

 

2.)  We just built a new house and I have a trackman 4 sim in the basement.  I've actually gotten into a new hobby of restoring old arcade games.  It started with a Donkey Kong and I now have 7 other machines.  My wife just shakes her head, but knows as long as she personally is keeping Michael Kors in business, she can't say much     Glad all is well, something made me check this forum today, guessing it was a need to say hi to you

 

1.)  I haven't really thought about that enough, but you are absolutely right... Anthony was indeed the spirit of the game.  He is the reason the TGC community was so drawn to the game leading up to the release of TGC 2.  Shaun West doesn't have the personality nor passion of Anthony, but I also think that Shaun, Craig, Adam, and John McCarthy have been corporately nutured to some degree as well.  For a while, HB Studios' CEO, Alan Bunker was doing what I thought was a pretty decent job of interacting with the community in the forum, but something radical happened in July, 2018, just prior to the release of TGC 2019.  The TGC 2019 Forum section was wiped clean of all posts and replies, Alan Bunker went into silence, and other developer interaction became sparse and brief.  It's still that way today.

 

I can't deny that I still enjoy playing TGC 2019 though.  I don't play it as often as I did in its first three or four months, but I still play probably 6 to 10 rounds a week.  It scares me to think of how much more I would enjoy it if it had a more intuitive, proportional swing interface, but it's enough to keep me entertained for a while.

 

2.)  Kudos on the new house, and you have a Trackman 4 in the basement!? (insert envious emoticon here)  Please tell me you've played Virtual Golf 2 with it!  It looks spectacular in the videos I've seen   

 

I can see myself getting into the arcade machine restoration business.  Are you buying them locally?  Nice that you've got some leverage for this with your wife's Michael Kors habit 

[zmax - sim]

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[adx321]

I'd have never done any of those things anyway, the golf sim is not to play games with.  I can walk outside my door and do that.

 

Watered down JNPG?  You mean it's possible it could be worse?  That's hard for me to believe.  I had the TM4 already for work at the range and plug it in inside.  If I cared enough I'd get something else. 

 

Damn.  Sorry to hear that.  You should have gotten a GC2, Quad, or Uneekor and joined OGT.   Now you're stuck using a watered down JNPG (aka VG2).   No online play, not user created courses, no tournaments.  Not to mention that fact that those mentioned devices actually read spin axis while TM4 does not measure spin axis while indoor.