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[frank70]

Said by the 10% I am talking about. I rest my case.

Does it matter who says it, if it is the truth? I don't understand your logic sometimes.

[SirGrassCutter]

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[SirGrassCutter]

Video golf is about mathematics. But still PP managed to take that out of the equation for the long game.

I am sure they can get there with the short game and the putting too.

The RTS-M is a thing of beauty and will never be mastered in a sense that you can replicate a perfect shot with ease. Actually it is almost impossible to hit the same shot two times in a row.

This applies to the long game. The short game is way more technical and sort of with a calculator in hand. In real life exactly that part of the game needs creativity and feel. That would be the goal - not making the game harder order manipulating stats. That would come from alone if the physics and the grade of difficulty for this shots were correct.

 

What?!  It is literally impossible to take the math out of video golf.  It is the only way the game can be programmed .  Tell me that you do not use a calculator.  That is just too rich.

[DivotMaker]

Yeah, but easy putting shouldn't even out easier ballstriking, right? In a perfect world both should be almost evenly difficult, no matter what swing method you use.

 

I am not witnessing easier ball striking when you look at my stats to yours.....My FIR/GIR are in the 50's/60's.....There will always be some that master a swing and will be the exception with any swing and any game....

[SirGrassCutter]

I came online this morning, opened my email and got a huge laugh.  Another thread about the same old thing, along with the same players and their paragraphs.  This will never end.  It is quite hilarious how some still after a year and a half of banter cannot get one thing inside their thick skulls.  This is a GAME.  Another post I am unsubscribing from because it is about the 100th repeat of other old posts.  ROFL

[Crow357]

I came online this morning, opened my email and got a huge laugh.  Another thread about the same old thing, along with the same players and their paragraphs.  This will never end.  It is quite hilarious how some still after a year and a half of banter cannot get one thing inside their thick skulls.  This is a GAME.  Another post I am unsubscribing from because it is about the 100th repeat of other old posts.  ROFL

Some are very passionate about their games dude.  Let em have their say.

[Greensboronclion]

All views and 0pinions should always be welcome as this is why you have a forum. 

[Stephen Sullivan]

All views and 0pinions should always be welcome as this is why you have a forum. 

However, you will always find there are people that think their views and opinions are more valid than anyone else 

[mebby]

However, you will always find there are people that think their views and opinions are more valid than anyone else 

This is a peculiar statement because, in this particular case, the one doing all the crying is a walking contradiction to that very statement.  It's a chicken and egg scenario.  Their opinion is that certain people should keep their opinions to themselves because it's a waste of time and resources.  So who's opinion is right?  Isn't it kinda contradictory to constantly whine about people voicing their opinions?  It's the whiner's OPINION that these other people are wasting everyone's time by stating their OPINIONS.

 

See the irony yet?

[Richard]

100 people post. 100 people have opinions. Which of the 100 are right. Of the 99 that are not right, who shives a git????

 

After awhile it all gets very boring. Yes I know, I don't have to read it. Generally I don't but Geez Louise, must we all ignore the fact that this a video game and not real life.

 

I guess I'm part of the 'whiner' class, sorry but there are a small group of active members that just take this 'game' too serious. I've completely lost track of what they are even asking that this game evolve to.

[Stephen Sullivan]

 

See the irony yet?

Wasn't sure whether you were having a pop at me for my harping on about a powerstroke swing or at someone else? 

[mebby]

Wasn't sure whether you were having a pop at me for my harping on about a powerstroke swing or at someone else? 

Not you Stephen.

[Mike Jones]

All views and 0pinions should always be welcome as this is why you have a forum. 

 

Completely agree.

[DennisHarris]

I'm all for anything that makes this game better.  

 

We also need to keep in mind a computer golf game has limitation to recreating the real game.  IMO statistics comparisons between real golf and this game miss the mark with the possible exception being the Golf Simulator players.  They are using real golf swings with real Golf Clubs and golf balls.   Any other swing method is a manufactured swing to emulate a golf swing.  Nothing more.  

PP keep up the good work.  And thanks for the game. 

[frank70]

I'm all for anything that makes this game better.

We also need to keep in mind a computer golf game has limitation to recreating the real game. IMO statistics comparisons between real golf and this game miss the mark with the possible exception being the Golf Simulator players. They are using real golf swings with real Golf Clubs and golf balls. Any other swing method is a manufactured swing to emulate a golf swing. Nothing more.
PP keep up the good work. And thanks for the game.

That's right - it's a game. But you can try to make the execution of a shot with a mouse or a controller comparable in difficulty as if you had a real club in hand. And you try to get the ball ground interaction as close to reality as possible. The devs are trying to do that - otherwise they wouldn't call the game a simulation.

And in evaluating the difficulty looking at numbers only can help. Scrambling with over 80% isn't just a stat. It influences how the game is played. Right now you can take a lot more risk going at every pin as a pro would do in real life. That influences directly the simulating part of the game or you could say the feel of playing the real thing.

If -10 on the hardest difficulty doesn't happen a few times a season but a few times per tournament (on tour pro) my thinking is, that we are not quite there yet. But that's my opinion. Maybe a lot of players find it cool to go that low regularly.

[Harvester]

I'm not sure about all the stats.  I never paid any attention to them.

 

I do know this:  If I have a shot from just off the green and dread it because in real life I'm screwed when this same type of shot comes up and then I smack the ball right into the hole or bang the flag stick it's a disappointment because it was totally unexpected.  This happens over and over again.

 

BTW,  I'm having a great time playing the game again. 

[Greensboronclion]

That's right - it's a game. But you can try to make the execution of a shot with a mouse or a controller comparable in difficulty as if you had a real club in hand. And you try to get the ball ground interaction as close to reality as possible. The devs are trying to do that - otherwise they wouldn't call the game a simulation.
And in evaluating the difficulty looking at numbers only can help. Scrambling with over 80% isn't just a stat. It influences how the game is played. Right now you can take a lot more risk going at every pin as a pro would do in real life. That influences directly the simulating part of the game or you could say the feel of playing the real thing.
If -10 on the hardest difficulty doesn't happen a few times a season but a few times per tournament (on tour pro) my thinking is, that we are not quite there yet. But that's my opinion. Maybe a lot of players find it cool to go that low regularly.

I do agree that scrambling is to easy and one shot that is way to easy is the pitch shot and that is even at Pro and TP. I can get down in two with that shot most of the time and no way does that happen IRL golf and to be honest from 50 yards and in its my go to shot. Also the lob shot is a tad to easy also.

[highfade]

What I don't get is that this imbalances in the difficulty of different shot types have been discussed to the bone but still nothing is done about it.  Endless threads and posts about certain shot types being too easy or unrealistic physics doesn't appear without reason.

 

It is as if we have been given a square wheel to play with.  After playing with it for a while we ask:  "Why don't we take off some of the corners so it can roll better, make it a little rounder you know?"

 

"No, we're leaving it like this because most of us are use to it now and it's not that bad." ...  Really?

[Crow357]

Mike has already described his thoughts on balance issues and their philosophy on making changes.  They don't jump up immediately and make wholesale changes to the shot types that you want however, and I'm guessing that's where your frustration is coming from.

[highfade]

Mike has already described his thoughts on balance issues and their philosophy on making changes.  They don't jump up immediately and make wholesale changes to the shot types that you want however, and I'm guessing that's where your frustration is coming from.

 

Jump up immediately, sure they don't.  Art, my frustration comes from the 6th of March 2015 to be exact.  But I shouldn't complain, at least I have CF.