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[Buck]

It would be nice if they gave the option to switch over to win10 from the steam version and have it disabled/nonplayable if they can do that ...

 

 

They will - It's called a "new purchase".

 

Guys - Not to be rude, but development costs loads of time and money.

 

We've all gotten a great deal on this game thus far and it's absolutely fair to expect a new purchase for the next major versions/other platforms.

 

Nothing we've heard has indicated that the existing Steam version will cease to work, so if you don't want to pay for the newest/latest/greatest, you won't have to.

[Bruce R]

I think I would buy both, a good PC Non Arcade version of any golf sim not only needs a good course designer for sustainability, it also requires backing financially.

Links survived due to its patches and overall customization, plus when it came out in the early 90"s it was ground braking.

I know have both this and the Golf Club and enjoy both, although TGC doesnt have the range of customizations ingame this has, as a purest I would put this ahead, but both play and look great.

When I played Links, which I did on my old machine 01 and 03, I couldnt wait to shelve out for the next charged course, be it from Mike, Wayne or any of the other great designers.

Moving to the HD Textures was a big step forward, I never could work out the APCD mainly because I never applied myself to it, so I designed for Tigerwoods series instead, being Australian I am hoping sometime to do some of our great courses, again until EA pulled the plug on PC because they realized they could get more money out of consol, up until then each years new game was eagerly awaited and folks shelved out far more than you will here because we knew their were Improvements to the game each year.

From what I have heard Windows ten will be around for the next decade, I own the game, bought it when a price was announced, I also have windows ten, and run it through Steam.

This game is far superior to that God aweful kiddy arcade thing EA tried to make online for PC and that cost heaps to buy if you wanted to go anywere with it.

 If I am going to only get major Improvements to the game through a windows 10 version with Patches and pay for it I will.

In any format I believe this game has a big future, but only if those behind it get reward for their efforts while enjoying the game themselves, otherwise in time they might just walk away from it.

Thanks OGT for providing an additional outlet to playing this game online, hope it has a bright long future as well.

[MOD45]

They will - It's called a "new purchase".

 

Guys - Not to be rude, but development costs loads of time and money.

 

We've all gotten a great deal on this game thus far and it's absolutely fair to expect a new purchase for the next major versions/other platforms.

 

Nothing we've heard has indicated that the existing Steam version will cease to work, so if you don't want to pay for the newest/latest/greatest, you won't have to.

I don't think you can speak for everybody mate. I have barely played the game as I have been waiting for all the kinks to be ironed out and the arrival of the career mode which was always promised if not implied. I don't have an interest in playing online so as far as I'm concerned I have not been given value for money because the game is half finished and now I'm told it's likely I'll have to buy the game again.

Explain to me why someone in my position should be happy to shell out money again?

[Buck]

I don't think you can speak for everybody mate. I have barely played the game as I have been waiting for all the kinks to be ironed out and the arrival of the career mode which was always promised if not implied. I don't have an interest in playing online so as far as I'm concerned I have not been given value for money because the game is half finished and now I'm told it's likely I'll have to buy the game again.

Explain to me why someone in my position should be happy to shell out money again?

 

Then don't I guess..

 

We are talking about less money than a night out or a couple rounds of drinks..

 

I simply can't get over how unbelievably stingy people are when it comes to software/games vs everything else that money gets spent on so mindlessly and routinely.

 

I apologize as I'm really not even talking about you in particular, I'm just tapped out on this narrative.

 

You're right - If you haven't gotten your value out of the game so far, then definitely don't buy the next version and I guess likely find a different developer's game to pursue?

 

Those really are the only options..

 

Hell - Anything that happens here is better than the EA Sports Rory treatment.  Now there has been a class A screw job.

[gravedodger]

I wouldn't mind buying a newer version of the game because I've already had way more value for money for the current JNPG but the need for Win10 is a no from me so I guess I'll have to miss out on all the excitement ... that's a bummer   

[MOD45]

Then don't I guess..

 

We are talking about less money than a night out or a couple rounds of drinks..

 

I simply can't get over how unbelievably stingy people are when it comes to software/games vs everything else that money gets spent on so mindlessly and routinely.

 

I apologize as I'm really not even talking about you in particular, I'm just tapped out on this narrative.

 

You're right - If you haven't gotten your value out of the game so far, then definitely don't buy the next version and I guess likely find a different developer's game to pursue?

 

Those really are the only options..

 

Hell - Anything that happens here is better than the EA Sports Rory treatment.  Now there has been a class A screw job.

           Not sure why you are tapped out over the narrative of my argument?

           Your not the one who feels that that have been ripped off. I expect to get what I paid for and unfortunately some dishonest developers are asking for more money. I know they are only a small team, but you should not promise what you cannot deliver.

[theclubpro]

I hope they give the heads ups on the release for those on the fence or just finding out about the game so they don't buy the steam version and a week or so later they release the win10 / Xbox and piss people off.. at least a month or so ahead of time at least..

[Buck]

I hope they give the heads ups on the release for those on the fence or just finding out about the game so they don't buy the steam version and a week or so later they release the win10 / Xbox and piss people off.. at least a month or so ahead of time at least..

 

That's a valid concern and a good idea.

[Buck]

           Not sure why you are tapped out over the narrative of my argument?

 

I'm tapped out on people being overly concerned about paying for new versions/major updates/etc, especially as time goes on.

 

If you feel you've been "ripped off", I'd highly recommend PM'ing Mike or Andrew directly and perhaps they'll be able to get you refunded and on your way.

Cheers

[Lee Trevino]

Unfortunately I won't be buying the W10 version as my PC is mainly used for flight simulation (FSX) so I'll be staying with W7 64bit.
I know FSX runs ok on W10, but my rig currently runs FSX with DX10 in 4k on 50" Tv perfectly, so why change.

[dexter morgan]

Consoles will be just another device as far as OGT is concerned.  So yes.  consoles will be able to play on OGT.

 

Fragmenting could happen, but I'm willing to bet that most people playing on pc now will upgrade to the Windows 10 version eventually.  As more and more people upgrade to Win10/Xbox, the PG steam lobby will become a ghost town.  

Explain what you mean "will become" what do you call it now ? "a huge hub of people trying to get a game of golf" LOL the lobby is a ghost town now for people wanting to find a game, has been for a long time.

[jeffield]

I'm on the ps4 with a moderate amd. R9 laptop I used for this game. (Actually bought it for this game). So I guess I'll be looking more forward to tgc2 for me. As my friends play on ps4 And tgc2 will be an in depth game that is on the ps4 in the near future.

[Wirenut48]

Unfortunately I won't be buying the W10 version as my PC is mainly used for flight simulation (FSX) so I'll be staying with W7 64bit.
I know FSX runs ok on W10, but my rig currently runs FSX with DX10 in 4k on 50" Tv perfectly, so why change.

I would think that the new version would run on W7 as long as you have a GPU that will run DX11. 

[RobV]

I'm tapped out on people being overly concerned about paying for new versions/major updates/etc, especially as time goes on.

Isn't what this poll was for and what JC is trying to find out?   And besides, how are you exactly "tapped out" anyway?  It is not like you can help what others intentions are for buying the game or not, people will make their decisions and you are reading why they will or will not buy the game in the future.   You may be able to convince some to buy it, but I am reading some legitimate concerns and responses, nothing over the top either.   

[JoeF]

I don't think you can speak for everybody mate. I have barely played the game as I have been waiting for all the kinks to be ironed out and the arrival of the career mode which was always promised if not implied. I don't have an interest in playing online so as far as I'm concerned I have not been given value for money because the game is half finished and now I'm told it's likely I'll have to buy the game again.

Explain to me why someone in my position should be happy to shell out money again?

 

It is not the developers' fault that you bought the game and then didn't play it, that rests solely on your own shoulders.  You have had ample opportunity to enjoy the game but by your own decision you did not.  

 

I purchased the same game as you, don't play online, look forward to the career mode and have had far, far more than my monies worth of enjoyment from this game simply because I enjoy the game for what it is, not what my "expectations" say it should be.  

 

You may not have gotten your monies worth out of the game but that is your own fault.  You have no one to blame but yourself.

[ProFirefighter]

... Gamers are likely going to have to go the Windows 10 route to experience the benefits of DirectX 11/12, Unity 5.5>, NVIDIA Turf Effects (3-D grass), SpeedTree GPU instancing, new higher-res mo-capped golfers, and career mode.

 

It would be very disappointing indeed if 3D grass and Career Mode required W10. I have 8.1 and have no interest in moving to 10.

 

Let us hope this is not likely and in fact not the case ...

[Buck]

Isn't what this poll was for and what JC is trying to find out?   And besides, how are you exactly "tapped out" anyway?  It is not like you can help what others intentions are for buying the game or not, people will make their decisions and you are reading why they will or will not buy the game in the future.   You may be able to convince some to buy it, but I am reading some legitimate concerns and responses, nothing over the top either.   

 

Rob you've been around here long enough to know why anyone would be tapped out on this topic in general.

 

This goes back, what..a year now? to the Season Pass stuff..

 

I was on the wrong side of that way back when and I really regret it.

The resistance to basically "any more payments" that seems inherent in so many these days (especially with App Store proliferation and devaluing of software) has led us here in PG to a worse product arguably.

There was a time when, given a Season Pass subscription concept, we might have had a central course repository and distribution and fully integrated ratings/rankings/downloads, all add-ons and upgrades included as time went on, etc..

 

That's of course a whole separate subject that is now gone, but it's sad thing we went the other direction as a result of too many of us being cheap asses with our initial reactions to that (myself was VERY much included at the time)..

 

If someone bought the Steam version within a few months of the new version coming out, I won't be surprised if they offer some options/concessions.  The rest of us have very very little to complain about.  Even the most expensive purchase of this was the ridiculously low $35 (much less for a lot of us of course).  

 

And if anyone bought the game for "what is coming" - Sorry, that is on you.  You don't buy a car that can't yet drive the roads you want to drive on a promise of "feature coming", nor should you do that w/ Software.  Mad at PP for not bringing some aspect or feature and feeling "wronged", you should PM them and get a refund.

 

 

Here's the main takeaway guys... To have a game you are interested in playing, expect it to require anywhere from $50-80/year.  Whether that is new versions, or a subscription, etc - This is simply the world we live in now.  

 

There is no going back to "I bought it and played it for years off of my old CD, etc"

Btw:  The old links install is still there if you want it.  Heck, you can find TGC on clearance all over the place if you need arcade golf too.

[shredspillers]

It would be very disappointing indeed if 3D grass and Career Mode required W10. I have 8.1 and have no interest in moving to 10.

 

Let us hope this is not likely and in fact not the case ...

You should move to Windows 10.  Windows 8 and 8.1 had worse sales than Vista did and is the least popular OS Windows has ever made because it is pure garbage.  Windows 10 brings back most of what Windows 7 had and is the best OS yet by them.  You are missing out.

[zmax - sim]

Agreed.  Finished upgrading all my pcs to Win10 a few weeks ago.  No issues.  Works great.  Win10 Pro can be had for $25.

[ProFirefighter]

You should move to Windows 10.  Windows 8 and 8.1 had worse sales than Vista did and is the least popular OS Windows has ever made because it is pure garbage.  Windows 10 brings back most of what Windows 7 had and is the best OS yet by them.  You are missing out.

 

Nope. Sales figures don't mean anything to me, just sheeple bending like reeds in the wind.

 

Making use of the free and wonderfully simple Classic Shell  utility gives me exactly what I want, and nothing that I don't.

 

Career Mode and 3D Grass need to be 8.1 options ...