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[Hammerfest]

@ remers: you´re still playing PG?  

I changed to sPG.

What does it mean? 

sPG =  s o o n  Perfect Golf .........

[wim1234]

Gimme's are part of the real game of golf (if desired).

That is the definition of "realism"

Buck, do you realy realy think that discussion has any use here?

[RobV]

Mr Bear has obviously never played real golf.

Not having to finish what you started?

In Stableford, if you take too many shots so that you cannot score any pts on the hole, you can pick up, you don't have to finish the hole. This would be a nice feature in the game for Stableford, where once you have played too many shots on a hole you can have the option to pick up.

Matchplay, you can concede a hole to your opponent without finishing.

Gimmes are part of matchplay. Anyone who claims they are not is a fool.

Agreed....  plus, who wants to get in a MP round with someone who may be having a bad game, missing 4 ft putt after 4 ft putt??  Including me!!   Talk about nails on a chalkboard!  

 

"Realism"  hahahaha 

[Ted_Ball]

Change your name GB and go incognito.

[Armand]

I've never seen a player in (competitive) real golf say "I hit that close enough, I'm going to take a gimme."   It's your opponent that decides if it's a gimme, not you (the player).  Gimmes are part of golf, yes, but "takees" (as I call them) should not be.  I understand that most people don't want to spend the time online watching someone play a 15" putt.  So, there is an agreement between online players to use takees.  (For the record, I usually don't play online).  If we want a realistic game, then in match play, gimmes should only be an option for the "non-putting side" of the match.

 

I personally don't use gimmes in the game unless "forced to" by tournament/round setups, and I haven't participated in any of those for 6 months or more.  On the real course, I accept gimmes when my playing partners give them to me (even in stroke/medal play), but I don't use takees - and yes, it costs me strokes from time to time.

[Buck]

The PG gimme functionality is totally optional.

If you don't like that option, just don't use it (and/or don't play in online rounds using gimmes).

 

[Buck]

Buck, do you realy realy think that discussion has any use here?

I was really really responding to these quotes directly above my post that you quoted.
 

 

Disagree!  Gimmes are a part of match-play In Real Golf.  So they are part of realism.
And gimmes can be selected or not selected in the setup screen for multiplayer.  I believe Gimmes in the API for official and 3rd party tournaments can turned on or off.   Tournament directors are in charge of that.
 
On the update front.  Glad to hear cup physics tweaks are being tested in beta.

Any time you do not have to finish what you started it is not realism.  We shall agree to disagree.  

Gimme's are part of the real game of golf (if desired).
That is the definition of "realism"

[GoldenBear]

Seriously? Gimmes are part of realism?  haha  I stand by what I say.  If some do not want to finish what they started, then why play the game?!  When one takes a gimme one is doing nothing.  Doing nothing can never equate to realism as nothing is done.  All here who try to defend gimmes as realism are simply not being realistic.  I always defend and prove what I say.  

[GoldenBear]

Change your name GB and go incognito.

I know it is hard for you to do Ted, but try to stay on subject.  Thanks

[RobV]

Seriously? Gimmes are part of realism? haha I stand by what I say. If some do not want to finish what they started, then why play the game?! When one takes a gimme one is doing nothing. Doing nothing can never equate to realism as nothing is done. All here who try to defend gimmes as realism are simply not being realistic. I always defend and prove what I say.

Yes gimmies most certainly are part of realism. When I get together with my brothers or friends to play REAL golf, we decide if gimmies will be ok. This way everyone is an agreement before the round starys. When I fire up Links or PG, I ask the same question and come to an agreement. I play the game simply because it is that, A GAME!

[Buck]

Seriously? Gimmes are part of realism? haha I stand by what I say. If some do not want to finish what they started, then why play the game?! When one takes a gimme one is doing nothing. Doing nothing can never equate to realism as nothing is done. All here who try to defend gimmes as realism are simply not being realistic. I always defend and prove what I say.

Mark I'm not sure why this concept is so hard for you to grasp, but here goes one more time…

Realism simply means being authentic to the original and representing it in a true to life fashion.
In the real game of golf people optionally use gimmes so that option is, correctly, available here in PG as well.

"Finishing something you started" has nothing to do with realism (go look at the definition).

Frankly that just feels like a poor argument around some idea of "I'm a bigger and better man because I finish what I start", which is nonsense in this context.

[mebby]

I've never seen a player in (competitive) real golf say "I hit that close enough, I'm going to take a gimme."   It's your opponent that decides if it's a gimme, not you (the player).  Gimmes are part of golf, yes, but "takees" (as I call them) should not be.  I understand that most people don't want to spend the time online watching someone play a 15" putt.  So, there is an agreement between online players to use takees.  (For the record, I usually don't play online).  If we want a realistic game, then in match play, gimmes should only be an option for the "non-putting side" of the match.
 
I personally don't use gimmes in the game unless "forced to" by tournament/round setups, and I haven't participated in any of those for 6 months or more.  On the real course, I accept gimmes when my playing partners give them to me (even in stroke/medal play), but I don't use takees - and yes, it costs me strokes from time to time.

I don't agree here. Often times when I play real golf we say if it's inside the leather (meaning the put is within the length of the putter club head and the bottom of the grip) that it's a gimme. This is exactly how JNPG is setup. You predefined what a gimme is and it's done.

[slouis]

Seriously? Gimmes are part of realism?  haha  I stand by what I say.  If some do not want to finish what they started, then why play the game?!  When one takes a gimme one is doing nothing.  Doing nothing can never equate to realism as nothing is done.  All here who try to defend gimmes as realism are simply not being realistic.  I always defend and prove what I say.  

Using your logic, then the concede option should be removed from JNPG since the golfer did not finish what they started.

[Buck]

Using your logic, then the concede option should be removed from JNPG since the golfer did not finish what they started.

Also, you shouldn't be able to quit the game for any reason before you've finished 18 holes..

[mebby]

Also, you shouldn't be able to quit the game for any reason before you've finished 18 holes..

If Mike had finished what he started then Golden Bear wouldn't even be posting here...

[Dazmaniac]

Uproar at Wimbledon.

 

Novak Djokavic doesn't finish what he started. The fans are asking where is the realism in that?

[Dazmaniac]

Thomas Berdych receives a gimme in to the semi finals. Wasn't required to finish out, in relation to previous post.

 

Unreal.

[DivotMaker]

Perfect Golf is not realistic since Mike and AJ haven't finished the game...

 

Such a shame!

[Jwheels9876]

Perfect Golf is not realistic since Mike and AJ haven't finished the game...
 
Such a shame!

And there's still 30 more multiplayer options than the other game that just got "finished" go figure....

[Buck]

And there's still 30 more multiplayer options than the other game that just got "finished" go figure....

 

I sure we wish we had some of the TGC2 avatar options...

...or really any options beyond the nothingburger we have now..