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[SirGrassCutter]

I know you want to fix any bugs people report.  My apologies if I came across as insinuating that you don't.  I thank you again for your replies Mike.  Updates to drivers and or software must be the culprit as you mentioned.  I wish I could find it.

[Mike Jones]

SirGrassCutter, on 25 Nov 2016 - 11:17 PM, said:

I know you want to fix any bugs people report.  My apologies if I came across as insinuating that you don't.  I thank you again for your replies Mike.  Updates to drivers and or software must be the culprit as you mentioned.  I wish I could find it.

 

Absolutely, we want everyone's experience with PG to be as good as possible. No-one hates it more than us here at PP when something stops people from enjoying the game. 

[JoeF]

SGC, you mentioned in an earlier post that you wouldn't turn off your antivirus while on-line.  Fair enough, but have you tried disconnecting from the internet, disabling your antivirus and then playing JNPG to see if there is any difference in your stuttering?  It should at least confirm or disprove whether your antivirus is a potential cause of the issue.  Do hope you find a solution.

[Ted_Ball]

Good Lord!  Very expensive high-end machines, over-the-top amounts of RAM, top-of-the-range vid cards, disabled anti-virus, changed ISPs, PROS, endless tinkering with settings in-game and out-game, endless work-arounds and people still have stuttering problems. What are these people supposed to do after they have tried everything? It's a golf game with a PROS function ffs. It's a little colored bar moving on a static screen and it stutters!? That should never happen. It's laughable in 2016. I would be very concerned. 

 

It makes you wonder how many people buy the game and dunp it straight away because it's unplayable. How many people with the problem don't complain on this forum and simply walk away. I would be very worried.

 

I would ask if the people with stutters experience similar stutters in any other golf game that uses 3 click?

 

I would also question why people say there is nothing wrong with the swing meter in the face of all that evidence to the contrary.

[Dazmaniac]

Ted_Ball, on 25 Nov 2016 - 11:55 PM, said:

I would also question why people say there is nothing wrong with the swing meter in the face of all that evidence to the contrary.

 

Question all you like. I don't have the same issues SGC is having. End of.

 

You seriously think I would say it is fine if it wasn't or are you trying to make out that those of us who say we are having no issues are lying?

[JoeF]

Ted_Ball, on 25 Nov 2016 - 11:55 PM, said:

 

I would also question why people say there is nothing wrong with the swing meter in the face of all that evidence to the contrary.

 

Because all the evidence does not show that there is something wrong with the swing meter.  It does, however, indicate that there can be something that can affect the perceived motion of the swing meter.  Unfortunately, solving what that is is like finding the proverbial needle in a haystack.  Could you consult your crystal ball and see if it has any ideas?  

[LeazesNDR]

SG...Just a long shot but have you changed any of the settings in Nvidia Control panel. Is JNPG set at default in there or have you changed anything in it?

[clubcaptain]

Dazmaniac, on 26 Nov 2016 - 12:03 AM, said:

Question all you like. I don't have the same issues SGC is having. End of.

 

You seriously think I would say it is fine if it wasn't or are you trying to make out that those of us who say we are having no issues are lying?

Whoaa.

 

I too had the stutters badly and I too would swear that it happened after an update many moons ago it seems. 

 

I applied all the suggestions to tweak things, maybe seven or eight and now I don't get the stutters. Maybe I'm fortunate or lucky but I'm certainly glad I left all that aggro behind. BTW I can't see the point in slamming or praising the meter, it's what's behind the meter that might be a problem. The stutters certainly did affect quite a number of people and I believed them, after all I was one of them.  In this and other games I've seen problems being reported that I never had. I just shrugged my shoulders and breathed a sigh of relief.

 

I'm convinced there has been and still is in at least one instance a stutter problem. Too many reports to deny that.

 

I also believe that there is a solution, namely users tweaking and tweaking  but it's not a good solution.

 

I'm also convinced that this isn't good for the game or any other game for that matter. many people wouldn't understand some of the tweaks suggested and some probably couldn't be bothered.

 

I'm also convinced that this game relies on "bottoms on seats", or whatever the cyber golf analogy is so it's a critical factor for the devs.

 

I'm also convinced that whoever now has the problem will get my sympathy.

 

Now, if someone could fix the "snap line slide by" I'd be really happy. Until then throw me a bit of sympathy :-) It happens several times each round and has done for ages. For those who don't get the slide by be assured I don't think you are lying.

[JoeF]

Concerning the 3C "slide by" effect - something is happening between the time you click the mouse button and the time the command is being received by the meter, causing the delay.  That, by its' very nature, tells me that something is interfering with or taking priority over the mouse signal.  The question is what within the computer is causing the delay.  The possibility exists that it could also be the underlying cause of the "stutters" that some see.

[Ted_Ball]

Dazmaniac, on 26 Nov 2016 - 12:03 AM, said:

You seriously think I would say it is fine if it wasn't or are you trying to make out that those of us who say we are having no issues are lying?

 

How do you know it is fine?

 

I have no reason to believe you or anyone else is lying. Why would you? What is annoying is that people are dismissing the people who have problems.

 

Any game developer would be mortified to learn that the essential part of their game isn't working in a lot of cases. Either that or they just don't care and hope that enough people don't have the problem to keep the money rolling in. I don't think PP can afford to take that stance. 

 

I find it absolutely incredible that a tiny little bar can't run smoothly with the technology and data transfer capabilities of 2016. It's not good enough that the meter doesn't work for some people. If PP do mind that people start to walk away because of the issue then they might seriously consider reworking the bloody 3 click meter whether they believe it's at their end or not. 

[jt83]

JoeF, on 26 Nov 2016 - 01:57 AM, said:

Concerning the 3C "slide by" effect - something is happening between the time you click the mouse button and the time the command is being received by the meter, causing the delay.

 

I tried playing Links 2003 at a mate's place and had no idea why I was slicing so badly, then it hit me - I was using his wireless mouse.  There was no other explanation.

[lefty1948]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this before so I will bring it up!

If you are using a GPU with an Nvidia chip this my or may not help, but it is working for me.

In my Nvidia control panel there are four (4) programs listed. They are perfect golf, geforce experience,

steam, and steam service.  I went into each one and made sure that the settings for each was exactly

the same. Tested the settings on three different courses and the meter was buttery smooth all the time.

If you would like to check this out on your computer, the settings are listed in the next post.

[lefty1948]

Follow up of settings from my previous post.

 

 

[SirGrassCutter]

JoeF, on 25 Nov 2016 - 11:53 PM, said:

SGC, you mentioned in an earlier post that you wouldn't turn off your antivirus while on-line.  Fair enough, but have you tried disconnecting from the internet, disabling your antivirus and then playing JNPG to see if there is any difference in your stuttering?  It should at least confirm or disprove whether your antivirus is a potential cause of the issue.  Do hope you find a solution.

 

Thank you Joe for your reply.  As a matter of fact I tried it today with the same results to help rule out my antivirus.

[SirGrassCutter]

Davy TASB, on 26 Nov 2016 - 12:17 AM, said:

SG...Just a long shot but have you changed any of the settings in Nvidia Control panel. Is JNPG set at default in there or have you changed anything in it?

 

I have my settings via Nvidia control panel at default at the present time.  I have tried tweaking the card from information gleaned from various forums as well as from this forum without results.  I do not believe it is graphics card related as I can change my maxed out settings to the lowest settings on all adjustments in game and still get the stutters and 3rd click slides.  Whatever it may be I believe it rules out my graphics card.  

[SirGrassCutter]

jt83, on 26 Nov 2016 - 02:33 AM, said:

I tried playing Links 2003 at a mate's place and had no idea why I was slicing so badly, then it hit me - I was using his wireless mouse.  There was no other explanation.

 

I have always used a wireless mouse and can click it from the opposite side of the room with no lag operating my computer.  I tried switching to a wired mouse with the 3rd click lag still prevalent only while playing JNPG.  So for me that rules out wireless mice.

[worrybirdie]

There is nothing more infuriating than being told "It's your problem" by people who aren't having the problem. If you're not having the problem just move on. There is no need to post. IMO

[Tigers Agent]

worrybirdie, on 26 Nov 2016 - 05:32 AM, said:

There is nothing more infuriating than being told "It's your problem" by people who aren't having the problem. If you're not having the problem just move on. There is no need to post. IMO

with that kind of logic, the dev's shouldn't even comment.  

[Mike Jones]

Ted_Ball, on 26 Nov 2016 - 01:58 AM, said:

How do you know it is fine?

 

I have no reason to believe you or anyone else is lying. Why would you? What is annoying is that people are dismissing the people who have problems.

 

 

Surely Daz was talking about his experience ie it's fine for him? What's annoying to me i that some people are dismissing those who do not have the problem or are trying to help.

 

Most posters in this the last couple of pages of this thread are talking about their experiences and are trying to identify the root cause of the problem and help those who do have an issue. 

[3199E5kennetharry]

i used to play WGT and that had serious meter stutter, 50 times worse than i get with JNPG.